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caver
05-07-2004, 04:05 AM
I take it that there is no rally scheduled this year?

....also, are there any active Ghost Town groups
in Yahoo Groups etc?

BradM
08-15-2004, 04:57 PM
The Ghost Town Rally will be the weekend of September 25th in Utah.

cheever
08-16-2004, 05:31 AM
Where in Utah?

Ryan Hill
08-16-2004, 12:02 PM
Oh foo, I'll be in southern Utah in late October, Kanab area.
Too bad I guess.

ghost_town_huntress
08-16-2004, 03:58 PM
Hey everyone. I'm one of the people planning this year's rally since I'm the one that lives here in north/ central Utah. Basecamp will be Springville, Utah. Cat's still busy trying to put the new announcements, t-shirts, etc. together. It will be the weekend of September 25-26 (we delayed it this year because of the heat and because I had a baby). We will be seeing towns in the Tintic Mining District (Eureka, Dividend, Mammoth, Knightsville, etc.) and also in coal country, Carbon County ( Standardville, Mutual, Coal City, National, Castle Gate, etc.) I put together a list of hotels, including pet friendly lodging and a couple of historic B&B's; Cat should be putting it up on her website soon. Just bear with us; we're working on it!!

Rachel in Utah ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com

Ghosttown Bob
08-19-2004, 11:40 AM
Hey Rachel - - I live here in Utah Valley (PG) and will plan on coming to the rally on Sept. 25. I would like to help out if you need it. I have a wedding to take care of on the 18th, but that weekend should be free. Let me know if you need anything. I have been doing research on some of the more little known ghost towns around Tintic, so I might have something to contribute.

Ghosttown Bob
rhg3@email.byu.edu

ghost_town_huntress
08-20-2004, 08:56 PM
Bob,

I'd love to hear what info you've got on the Tintic District! I'm planning on going back to Eureka tomorrow (Aug. 21) for the last day of their Tintic Silver Festival to talk to some more locals and hopefully get permission from the guy that "runs" the property that the Chief Consolidated mine is located on to let the rallygoers explore there or at least get a tour. I'm going back again next week sometime to pick up some items from a small gift shop in Eureka for the raffle as well. I'm hoping to also plan a ride on the Heber Creeper for the night of the 24th; they've been allowing dogs on the train lately and I'm hoping they'll be willing to extend that priviledge to the rally goers. Anyway, email me and let me know what you've found out about the Tintic area or maybe we could meet somewhere.

Rachel in Provo ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com

cheever
08-23-2004, 07:25 AM
Rachael I know the guy (although not personally) that you need to get in touch with to get on Chiefs stuff. Where you able to get in touch with anyone on Sat about that property? By the way word has it that Chief Consolidated is bankrupt and so who knows what will happen to the property now. I've been trying to get up there and get pictures before the state reclaims all of it or before vandals get a hold of the Eagle & Bluebell and etc that Chief owns for now, because I think that it will go back to public land. It is funny that you mention this because I was going to email you today about possibly getting up on some of Chiefs property with the whole Ghost town crew, but it looks like you are one step ahead of me. :) I work with several people that live in Eureka so let me know if I can be of any help.

BradM
08-24-2004, 04:17 PM
Rachael I know the guy (although not personally) that you need to get in touch with to get on Chiefs stuff. Where you able to get in touch with anyone on Sat about that property? By the way word has it that Chief Consolidated is bankrupt and so who knows what will happen to the property now. I've been trying to get up there and get pictures before the state reclaims all of it or before vandals get a hold of the Eagle & Bluebell and etc that Chief owns for now, because I think that it will go back to public land. It is funny that you mention this because I was going to email you today about possibly getting up on some of Chiefs property with the whole Ghost town crew, but it looks like you are one step ahead of me. :) I work with several people that live in Eureka so let me know if I can be of any help.

Last time I was through Eureka I noticed there are homes almost right up to the Eagle&Bluebell, and the tailings appeared to have been removed. Things have changed a lot there. I would imagine most of the stuff has been taken out of that mine since when I explored the mine in my late teens. It is an awesome mine with extensive workings. I have a set of the original ore shipment ledgers from that mine, dated in the 1920's.

cheever
08-25-2004, 10:04 AM
Brad,

I can't vouche for what was in the mines themselves since I haven't been able to get up there, but from what I understand there are still several surface features still left up there. The mine dump was removed several years ago and reclaimed around the other side of the mountain. From what I understand is that around that same time frame is when the roads up to the Eagle&Bluebell, Chiefcon (I think this is the one that chief owns), and several others were fenced off and only accessible by pemission only. You are right though in the fact that the homes are right up to the base of the canyon where the Eagle&Bluebell are located. I thought that both of these mines were shafts did you guys rapell into them? I just I could have made it down to this area before the state went in and reclaimed all of the mines, because it appears that there were several very large mines down there. How many mines in the area were you able to explore before you moved?

BradM
08-25-2004, 10:23 PM
Brad,

I can't vouche for what was in the mines themselves since I haven't been able to get up there, but from what I understand there are still several surface features still left up there. The mine dump was removed several years ago and reclaimed around the other side of the mountain. From what I understand is that around that same time frame is when the roads up to the Eagle&Bluebell, Chiefcon (I think this is the one that chief owns), and several others were fenced off and only accessible by pemission only. You are right though in the fact that the homes are right up to the base of the canyon where the Eagle&Bluebell are located. I thought that both of these mines were shafts did you guys rapell into them? I just I could have made it down to this area before the state went in and reclaimed all of the mines, because it appears that there were several very large mines down there. How many mines in the area were you able to explore before you moved?
I saw the head frame and buildings were still up there last time. The E&B has a main double compartment vertical shaft that is either 1850 or 2250 feet deep, I can't remember now. The mines on the east side of town are hot and wet at depth. There is also a tunnel driven east into the mountain a few thousand feet deep that ends at another well developed vertical shaft which connects with the outside workings. I found two antique bottles deep in this tunnel under a wooden barrel. Both these shafts had laddered manways at the time I was growing up in the area, though the main shaft's ladders are just tacked to the wall of the shaft with no rest stations or back braces except a plank to stand on. I would never go down that shaft again it is too dangerous. A left side trapdoor accesses the ladders. There were at least a dozen ore cars out on the tailings also.

I have explored the surface around every single mine in the area, and several of them underground. I think I've been in every single tunnel out there too.

ghost_town_huntress
08-26-2004, 10:59 PM
We're most definitely not going into any of these mines during the rally. God knows they're probably not safe and I really don't feel like risking anyone's lives at the rally. Not to mention most of them are at least fenced off now; alot even have rebar grating or huge metal doors on them. I'm just hoping to get a tour of the property and buildings that belong to the Chief Consolidated. Still have to contact the guy that runs it for his permission.

Rachel ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com

cheever
08-27-2004, 07:05 AM
Rachel,

The discussion that Brad and I are having is just a tangent. I am talking about the same thing that you are and that is just getting on their property to take surface tours and to see what is left of the Eagle Bluebell, Chiefcon, and etc. By no means was I implying that we take the whole group into abandon mines, so I'm sorry if you misunderstood the tangent that we got off on (not saying of course that I don't like exploring them though if they are safe enough). Please let me know if you would still like the contact info for the caretaker.

ghost_town_huntress
08-30-2004, 11:36 PM
I'm sorry if I sounded upset. That wasn't my intention. It's just that other people are also reading this and I don't want them getting the wrong idea about the rally and only coming to see some mines; they'll be sorely disappointed. So sorry!

Rachel ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com

one_bad_rover
09-07-2004, 07:23 AM
Hey all..
FYI, it is required that if a mine is gated and there is another entrance that is not gated that there must be way to enter and exit from the gated area. Some of you may know what I am talking about. Feel around on the bars and you may find a way into these mines. Or if you are really determined... find and air shaft and repel in. IMHO this is the safest way as there is not a lot of digging or picking that has gone on in the air shaft and they are pretty solid. As always be careful and if you dont know what you are doing find someone who does to assist you.

BTW: I'll keep checking in for updates on the rally as I would really like to meet a few of you.

lovewriter
09-11-2004, 03:59 AM
how do you find out what ghosttowns are for sale and get a response from anyone about them? Or is there a better way to find towns that are for sale? uninhabbited please. Thanks lovewriter.

one_bad_rover
09-11-2004, 01:49 PM
Check with the BLM, they can usually tell you the status of the land. If its still privately owned you will need to check with a real estate agent, otherwise you are pretty much out of luck as the BLM rarely parts with any of its land. btw... the majority of Eureka is for sale, the post office, one of the old mercantiles, a bar and a motel.. last I heard the woman who is selling it was looking to get $300k for all of it... really quite a steal if you think about it, but good luck getting financing on such a venture...

one_bad_rover
09-24-2004, 06:50 AM
Is the rally still planned for this weekend.... is there a meeting place and time defined?
Thanks!!!

ghost_town_huntress
09-24-2004, 06:05 PM
Yes the rally is still planned for this weekend, the 25th and 26th. The initial meeting place is the Best Western Cottontree Inn parking lot off exit 265 (just off I-15) in Springville at 8:30 am.

Rachel ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com

Ron B.
09-27-2004, 11:33 AM
For everyone who attended the 2004 rally.
Here are a couple of pictures of what Standardville & Spring Canyon towns looked like back in the 30's.

Standardville
http://content.lib.utah.edu/cgi-bin/htmldocview.exe?CISOFILE=/USHS_Shipler/image/56515182862002_154412286200239222000702915.jpg&CISODESC=/cgi-bin/htmldesc.exe%3FCISOROOT=/USHS_Shipler%26CISOPTR=5578&CISOSEARCH=&CISOFTS=0

http://content.lib.utah.edu/cgi-bin/htmldocview.exe?CISOFILE=/USHS_Shipler/image/96615182862002_154412286200239222000702923.jpg&CISODESC=/cgi-bin/htmldesc.exe%3FCISOROOT=/USHS_Shipler%26CISOPTR=5582&CISOSEARCH=&CISOFTS=0

Spring Canyon
http://content.lib.utah.edu/cgi-bin/htmldocview.exe?CISOFILE=/USHS_Shipler/image/4759172592002_39222000706098.jpg&CISODESC=/cgi-bin/htmldesc.exe%3FCISOROOT=/USHS_Shipler%26CISOPTR=8892&CISOSEARCH=&CISOFTS=0

Had a goodtime at this years rally. The Chief Mine #1 tour in Eureka was well worth it. Thanks Rachel for setting that up.

Looking forward to next years rally.

Thanks,

Ron
Dugway, UT

old judge
12-09-2004, 10:06 AM
I was in Springville a couple of weeks after the 2004 whing-ding. The Old Bride's family are in SLC and Springville. Sorry we missed it. Is there anything on tap for 2005? Any thoughts about regional get-togethers? Maybe NM, AZ. NV. CA, CO, ID, etc. etc.? Oh, and UT? I can't be much punch. I'm an OKIE. But seems like a good idea to me. OldJudge

Cat and Ripley
12-10-2004, 04:02 PM
We're thinking about throwing two rallies in 2005. One in spring and one in fall.

Spring rally we'd like to host in the Bridgeport, CA area - near Bodie. Lots of historical sites in the area to keep us busy the entire weekend.

Fall rally we'd like to host in Eastern Nevada - in areas between Ely and Eureka. Ideally we'd like everyone to camp out - it'll be so much easier for everyone to get to know each other, hang out, etc.

And then thinking about 2006 - just my private wish, I'd LOVE to have it in Colorado! Anyone else agree?

old judge
12-12-2004, 09:53 AM
Hey you big retriever: Did you get my message on your website, www.ripleysghosttowns.com (http://www.ripleysghosttowns.com) ? LOL. Old Judge's Best Friend, Gabriella

ghost_town_huntress
12-14-2004, 01:29 PM
Oooooo, Colorado for 2006? That sounds awesome! I want to see the Old Hundred mine! I can't wait for next year's rallies either, especially Bodie!

Rachel ghost_town_huntress@yahoo.com