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ironchapman
06-13-2005, 09:13 PM
Recently during a dig, construction workers discovered an underground area beneath Sherman, Texas' main street. This was shocking to all resident, including local historians and longtime residents. They didn't know such a place existed!

It could be an old undergroud shopping area, as shop signs have been found there.

Flatiron
06-14-2005, 03:26 AM
Speaking of underground cities, have any of you taken the underground city tour in Seattle? I can't remember if they excavated the area, or just built over it, but it's pretty interesting. The outhouses had to be built x number of feet off the ground to allow for drainage, but they still had problems. The sewer lines ran down the street (as usual), but the street was built up way above the shops and businesses, and occassionally a freight wagon or horse and buggy would go over the edge and crash down into one of the shops. Apparently they just filled it in and built part of the new Seattle over it. It's not like being alone in a ghost town, but is still pretty interesting...........

ironchapman
06-14-2005, 12:26 PM
Atlanta has a similar place that i still in use called Underground Atlanta. It is a place for all kinds of weird shops. It was the original streets of the city before they had to be raised off the ground.

Fairlane500
06-16-2005, 03:14 PM
Speaking of underground cities, have any of you taken the underground city tour in Seattle? I can't remember if they excavated the area, or just built over it, but it's pretty interesting. The outhouses had to be built x number of feet off the ground to allow for drainage, but they still had problems. The sewer lines ran down the street (as usual), but the street was built up way above the shops and businesses, and occassionally a freight wagon or horse and buggy would go over the edge and crash down into one of the shops. Apparently they just filled it in and built part of the new Seattle over it. It's not like being alone in a ghost town, but is still pretty interesting...........
Underground Seattle was just built over. They just raised the streets at first, so people would wind up in accidents falling into the underground. Eventually it was all covered. Most of the old buildings currently have their ground floor as the second floor, with the old floor below ground level.

ghamilton
06-17-2005, 05:18 PM
Having taken the tour back in '69,before lawyers dictated what and where,I have to say-It was much different back then.we went places that can't be viewed today.It's like touring a ghost town and going back some years later and finding it all "sanitized"for your protection.Like what UT is doing,as well as some federal locations.Old sites are being decimated for our greater good.

Rupe
10-18-2008, 03:46 PM
Pendleton Oregon also has an underground city. Some of it was dug by the Chinese immigrants and they lived underground because it was illegal for them to be on the city streets after dark. Then some of it was taken over during probition and turned into speak easy's. Some parts were still active during WWII and there was underground bowling alley. There is a tour called The Pendleton Underground Tour, that put on tours through a part of it. You will see the above areas plus more and the guide will tell you all about it. It is great! I have been through it twice, due to my sister is one of the tour guides. They also take you to an old Bordello called the Cozy Room at the end of the tour. Very interesting.


I was also wondering if these types of places are also considered Ghost Towns?

Tsarevna
10-19-2008, 08:36 AM
Portland has an underground as well, and I beleive it's already been filmed by the "Cities of the Underworld" History Channel TV show.

http://www.shanghaitunnels.info/

They are called the "Shanghai Tunnels," and you can take the tour from "Hobo's" bar and restaurant.

http://www.hobospdx.com/index.html

(Take a look at that website, a very un-asumming storefront, isn't it?) :)
One would never expect that it was once Grand-Central Station for the slave trade.

However, from what I gather without having seen the entire episode, they didn't understand what the underground was for. They explained it like it was a prohibition-era alcohol smuggling area.

Wrong!

It was built for Shanghai'ing (kidnapping) strong able-bodied men to work aboard ships heading for China and the Far East. During the time of the Homestead Act, and the various gold rushes, it was hard to find an able bodied man willing to spend years at sea, missing out on all the opportunities.

So, a few bars in what is today's "Old Town," "Chinatown," and underneath where police headquarters is at, there were tunnels and secret rooms. Some of them were for smuggling opium, and they connected to the basements of other buildings in a network, so opium smokers could escape police raids. Female sex slaves were said to be down there too...

But for the most part, bartenders in the old town would ask a few questions to men sitting down to drink. If they had no family (that would come looking for them) in the area, and if they were able-bodied or had nautical experience, they were drugged by the bartender. Next they were dumped down secret hatches in the floors, into cells in the underground. (There are actual bars on these cells down there.) Their shoes were removed, so if they escaped they'd have to walk on all the broken glass down there.

They'd wait in the cell until a ship captain came to port needing more crew, then they'd be sold to the captain.

If a captain was already at port, waiting, they'd be ushered to the boat, (through the underground tunnels that led to the waterfront,) while still drugged, and wake up already out to sea. :o

Rupe
10-19-2008, 10:01 AM
I saw a show on the Portland underground tunnels and it was all about the Shanghai ing of men. It was very interesting. The told several stories about one of the famous men that was one of the biggest in the Shanghai business. It was insane what they did under the streets of Portland. If you ever get a chance to see the show it was on PBS-OPB station and they show it about twice a year.

danny_stoddard
10-19-2008, 01:36 PM
Astoria has a musical play they put on every year titled Shanghaid in Astoria.... (s.i.c.?) and captures this part of the history for these towns (portland, etc.) of shanghai'ing folks out to sea....