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SpaceyTracey
10-28-2005, 09:50 AM
Chestnut Lodge???

SpaceyTracey
10-28-2005, 09:55 AM
Chestnut Lodge ???

SpaceyTracey
02-01-2006, 04:54 PM
Doing research on history and treatment of patients at Chestnut Lodge Hospital and looking for any information good or bad anyone would like to give.Thank you for any help you can give.

Sincerly,
Tracey

RadioJim
02-25-2006, 12:26 PM
The research they were performing at Chestnut Lodge was nothing less than human cruelty. I lived next door to the facility for 30 years and still have trouble sleeping at night after the screams that eminated from the 'hospital' at night. If you have chosen to do research about the hospital use extreme caution with the information you learn. The facts may haunt you for a lifetime.......

safetybar
02-25-2006, 06:03 PM
spooky stuff. After reading your post I did some minor research of my own...thought this would be of interest to anyone curious about this place...

http://carantics.com/chestnutlodge/


edit: looks like just a few weeks ago they were given the green light to turn that place into multiple 1 million dollar plus condos. The main house and many of the out buildings will remain intact. Good lord, imagine living in that place?! I smell trouble....

mort1976
06-30-2006, 04:36 AM
I WAS IN CHESNUT LODGE,ADOLECENT DIVISION FROM 1976-1979.WE LIVED In
houses but had a seclusion room.THE care was very good.
medication was not used.If you
got upset you were subject to
being tied down to a bed in cold wet sheets for three hours to
change body tempature.there was not the type of medications
that there are today.I too always wanted to write about
the history of the lodge and track down people that worked and lived threre.

bad bob
06-30-2006, 11:56 AM
Category moooooooving sale.

Beds, blankets, linen, chairs, straps, uniforms, strait jackets
clipboards, blackjacks, rubber hoses, etc., all the items required to keep an asylum up & running.

All. Hope you will please post your message no matter who gets there first. Various "virg-ions" always make things more interesting.
b.

bad bob
06-30-2006, 02:52 PM
Time's a runnin' out....only a few items left. Keys will be turned over to last buyer.
bb.

LauraA
06-30-2006, 07:44 PM
How much for the moose head? .... and by the way, what happened to the other end of the moose? Either end would look great over my fireplace.

bad bob
06-30-2006, 08:32 PM
The moose head is only a front for the front of the moose. The rest of the moose is installed in the wall. The head was supposed to go in the hall, but the wall in the hall wasn't tall enough to accomodate a full size bull moose.
Now the head with the plaque is only $20, but the cost to extricate the rest of the moose is $6500. A moose installation crew will turn their blueprints inside-out, and uninstall the moose remainder from behind the tall wall.
So in summary, the moose head with the behind from behind the tall wall will cost
$6520. Transportation to new location is of course extra.
bb.

NWNative
06-30-2006, 09:27 PM
The front of the moose, is already loose
However the rear, is nowhere near
So the headís on a plaque, without itís back
Which is in the wall, not in the hall
ĎCause the wall in the hall wasnít tall

So if you desire, to be the buyer
Of an empty headed moose, without his caboose
You can pick it up cheap, itís out on the heap

But if you desire, to be the rear buyer
Then from that room, weíll have to exhume
So weíll need a crew, to come undo
The work of some Quack, who desired the rack
And I have a hunch, this will cost you a bunch
But how can you pass, on a nice piece of . . . Moose.

Thereís a moral there, but I donít know where

bad bob
06-30-2006, 09:46 PM
Outstanding NW!!!!!!

The moose is yours
bb.

LauraA
07-01-2006, 05:40 AM
Bravo NW! You deserve the moose (both ends) but I'm hoping you'll grant visitation privileges .... Tuesdays & Thursdays the head, every other weekend the other end, of course I'll pay for shipping as soon as I figure out the postage...and where to put the stamp.


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BB, are there any other souvenirs left that compare with the stature of the noble moose?

bad bob
07-01-2006, 08:47 AM
LauraA
When awarding NW the moose, I had in mind trying to talk him into donating Mickey to the LauraA Bards Foundation. I think NW would be happy to give MM to such a benevolent organization.

Otherwise, there is one nice Elk head named Lawrence, and one huge Grizzley Bear head called Adam. The Raccoon (Bandit) was sold to some Brits from Liverpool.
bb.

LauraA
07-01-2006, 09:20 AM
The LauraA Bard Foundation was established to reunite bards and down-on-their-luck rhymers with their iambic pentameter. We have a special dispensation given for haiku writers, they're too far gone and in a world of their own.
Moose Laureates enjoys a prominent place on our wall of shame....err fame.
Lawrence the elk wouldn't have the impact Mickey Moose does. Anyway, Lawrence has a preference for standing in front of lodge halls wearing light bulbs on his antlers and greeting men wearing red fezzes. Adam Bear has moths and fleas and is losing fur in huge clumps. (Rogaine has been prescribed, if that fails, maybe glue and faux fur would work)
Forget about Bandit, he's acquired a taste for crumpets and last seen he was gallivanting around London with Her Majesty's Royal Corgi.

NWNative
07-01-2006, 01:14 PM
You can have MM - but you pay for extrication and removal!

bad bob
07-01-2006, 01:37 PM
Ouch.......
LA...suggest yard & bake sales, and other fund raisers to help defray costs fer Mick.
bb.

LauraA
07-01-2006, 01:59 PM
Yikes...I can't bake that many cookies, and nobody would want to buy my castoffs, we might need to seek donations of useable items. (dang...it's not easy administering a foundation) or wearing one for that matter
Perhaps marination as opposed to extrication is called for?

GaryB
07-01-2006, 11:27 PM
I got dibs on the cockroaches!

curious
07-18-2006, 02:56 PM
Does anyone know if the buildings are still up? Is it possible to get in and see anything or is there security?

GaryB
07-18-2006, 03:11 PM
See the "search" tab in the menu above? Start there :rolleyes:

curious
07-18-2006, 03:17 PM
Thanks, I think i have read all the posts about it, but Im unclear if there are still any buildings left. I know some are gone. Anyone know?

Tetley1976
09-17-2006, 01:09 PM
I lived at The Lodge from 1976 to 1978 in house number 504. The adolescent houses were not too bad. It was almost like a country club, if you knew how to go around the rules & locked doors. I left as a better person BUT I was really into drugs, sex, and rock and roll, ect as a young adult. It took 20 years for me to get my **** together. Mort tells it like it was and I think we were even roommates at one time.

Tetley1976
09-17-2006, 01:21 PM
FYI there is pot growing all over the rear of the AD homes, in the forest, next to the highway. Also near Stanleys House. At least it was there in 1988. Maybe all of the plants have been havested by now.:eek:

Some of the plants where planted by myself and others, and some plants were started by the staff. They partied all the time.

LauraA
09-17-2006, 01:34 PM
FYI there is pot growing all over the rear of the AD homes, in the forest, next to the highway. Also near Stanleys House. At least it was there in 1988. Maybe all of the plants have been havested by now.:eek:

Some of the plants where planted by myself and others, and some plants were started by the staff. They partied all the time.

Ahh HA! That explains it, NOW this thread has meaning. (I betcha I know where the pot plants went) :rolleyes:
Bad bob, NW, Gary...wanna fess up? and by the way, where's Mickey Moose? :confused:

GaryB
09-17-2006, 07:07 PM
Not me, firewater is the strongest concoction I succumb to.

NWNative
09-17-2006, 08:10 PM
Great, ya lost the moose. Well, if he's out I 'spect we know where the pot plants went.

LauraA
09-17-2006, 08:19 PM
Noooo YOU had moose custody, both ends. Poor Mickey Moose, he's probably a pothead living in Maryland somewhere,wandering the mean streets, looking for a handout :(

NWNative
09-18-2006, 08:00 AM
Wait - I thought I donated him to your foundation provided you pay for extraction. If you didn't remove him, and I didn't remove him - who did?!?
The mystery deepens.

LauraA
09-18-2006, 07:04 PM
Wanted Dead or Alive



Mickey Moose, missing from Chestnut Lodge Asylum. Must be considered antlered and dangerous. may be using drugs.


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GaryB
09-18-2006, 11:04 PM
Moose on chronic? That explains the flying squirrel and Russian spy stories...



Wait - If you didn't remove him, and I didn't remove him - who did?!?
The mystery deepens.

Anyone seen Bad Bob, he's been awful quiet lately. Trying to hide a stolen, stoned moose would keep one busy ;)

bad bob
09-19-2006, 04:20 PM
Anyone seen Bad Bob, he's been awful quiet lately. Trying to hide a stolen, stoned moose would keep one busy ;)

Helo Mr Gary
I seen my bruther bob yestirday, but there's no moos around here. Sory I can't tell you anthing elss. He's still vary madd at me becase I went to LA to look for gosts.
Heather

LauraA
09-19-2006, 06:26 PM
Heather dear, when last seen, your brother had antlers sticking out of the trunk of his car, how can you explain that?

Gary & NW, I think it's time to call in Inspector Mooseau to solve the moosetery. :cool:

bad bob
09-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Heather dear, when last seen, your brother had antlers sticking out of the trunk of his car, how can you explain that?

Gary & NW, I think it's time to call in Inspector Mooseau to solve the moosetery. :cool:

Well I dont no how that coud be becase my bruther has a svu, wich dosnt have an trunk.
Heath.

LauraA
09-19-2006, 08:07 PM
Well I dont no how that coud be becase my bruther has a svu, wich dosnt have an trunk.
Heath.

hmmm maybe he should see a doctor for that?

ProRepo
12-08-2006, 07:36 PM
:eek: I was in 504 from 1985 to 1988 as a troubled teenager. Who was the house parent back then?

bad bob
12-09-2006, 01:03 PM
:eek: I was in 504 from 1985 to 1988 as a troubled teenager. Who was the house parent back then?


Pretty sure it was Ozzie Nelson!

ProRepo
12-09-2006, 06:35 PM
i do remember that name , it was discussed alot . Was there a doc there named Jaime Buenaventura back then ? they called him "Dr. B "

speedy
12-10-2006, 06:49 AM
Wonder if Dr. Kildare was there? Would have been a long while back.....Speedy

LauraA
12-10-2006, 04:51 PM
Speedy, uh huh I think he and Ben Casey did their internship there together. ;)

bad bob
12-11-2006, 02:39 PM
i do remember that name , it was discussed alot . Was there a doc there named Jaime Buenaventura back then ? they called him "Dr. B "


Hmmm, don't recall "Dr B", but I seem to recall a sort of evil scientist named "Dr No".

bb.

ProRepo
12-13-2006, 07:07 PM
when i was there a woman by the name of Millie Hamacher was the house parent , Now known as Millie Bennett , she got married a back in 1988 shortly after my insurance ran out . i could write a book about that place , alot of good and bad **** happened over the years as a patient . will have to tell more later !:D

stephaniv55
12-22-2006, 03:39 AM
The research they were performing at Chestnut Lodge was nothing less than human cruelty. I lived next door to the facility for 30 years and still have trouble sleeping at night after the screams that eminated from the 'hospital' at night. If you have chosen to do research about the hospital use extreme caution with the information you learn. The facts may haunt you for a lifetime.......
I know I was a patient there 36yrs ago and I have nightmares every night. I was 15 yrs old when admitted.

stephaniv55
12-22-2006, 03:41 AM
Hmmm, don't recall "Dr B", but I seem to recall a sort of evil scientist named "Dr No".

bb.
I knew Dr. B. He was my administrator for my unit.
He should rot in ****. For 36 yrs I have had nightmares from him. You would not believe the stuff they did to me

stephaniv55
12-22-2006, 03:45 AM
I WAS IN CHESNUT LODGE,ADOLECENT DIVISION FROM 1976-1979.WE LIVED In
houses but had a seclusion room.THE care was very good.
medication was not used.If you
got upset you were subject to
being tied down to a bed in cold wet sheets for three hours to
change body tempature.there was not the type of medications
that there are today.I too always wanted to write about
the history of the lodge and track down people that worked and lived threre.
I was there from 1971-1975

stephaniv55
12-22-2006, 03:46 AM
I knew Dr. B very well

stephaniv55
12-23-2006, 04:34 AM
I WAS IN CHESNUT LODGE,ADOLECENT DIVISION FROM 1976-1979.WE LIVED In
houses but had a seclusion room.THE care was very good.
medication was not used.If you
got upset you were subject to
being tied down to a bed in cold wet sheets for three hours to
change body tempature.there was not the type of medications
that there are today.I too always wanted to write about
the history of the lodge and track down people that worked and lived threre.
I was there from 1971-1976. I was 14 when I got there. I knew Dr.B he ran Upper Cottage until the adolescent division was opened then he ran that along with Sissy Schmidt who was my head nurse at upper cottage. They were all dope heads. Dr. B used to have parties at his house and do drugs with the staff. He told me I would be in there the rest of my life and being 14yr old sounded so frightening

ProRepo
12-26-2006, 02:38 PM
Dr B Was A **** , he did try and have me committed back in 1988 , i threatened him about his parties he was having - i was going to turn his *** in for using one of the female patients for his sex parties ! He was gluttin' for punishment ... i even had witnesses lined up for that.

ProRepo
12-26-2006, 02:52 PM
i was the "smart" one back in the day (1987) when i decided to AWOL , I found out where they kept the keys for the hospital vehicles (in the center recreation dept) i used my plactic "Lodge ID" to jimmy the door and i was in , got all the keys to the vehicles and jumped in a full size white unmarked Dodge van along with a upper hospital patient i was dating (Margaret Wyche) she was running the old Kiosk , she took the money and about 50 cartons of smokes and a crap load of candy and cokes , and we hit the road . we were gone for 2 weeks and ran out of money , so we called the lodge and they came and got us . I do remember we were on unit restriction and staff escort for months , then when i got caught up in my highschool studies and graduated , i was about to turn 18 and i signed out AMA . Dr B tried to have me committed !

coolguy0621
12-27-2006, 06:51 AM
So this place was a re-hab of sorts?

cmorris
03-10-2007, 08:51 PM
My husband and I were at Chestnut Lodge in the late 80's, early 90's. I was an outpatient @ the Lodge School and he was an inpatient in 503. He went AWOL after a year and never looked back. I went for almost 3 years and finally got kicked out when I got pregnant. He & I both loved the teachers at the school (Mrs. Forsythe - you will forever be the best, Mrs. Drucker, Mr. Mays, etc...). The residential staff, some were cool, others ..... well ...... they were not. We had good times and bad times there ........ alot of memories, **** that is where my husband and I met, so I guess you could say that CL did our lives some good.
I would love to hear from anyone who was there in the late 80's early 90's, on the adolescent side. Please email us @ cmorris@robertsoxygen.com or frenchmorris@comcast.net

bad bob
03-11-2007, 04:29 PM
Hiya
Can't say I was ever there officially, but went in there looking for a lost moose one time years ago. His name was Mickey, and we found out Dr B had sold him to a sportsman's lodge. Or was it Dr No?

bb.

jenna
11-25-2007, 12:31 PM
I went to chestnut lodge as a teen.Was there 2 years or so. I have always wanted to get in touch with some of the staff and patients that I knew. Anyone that spent time at the lodge from 1975-1977 email me. Jenna
Pam Lillard are you out there, lisa greene, ian, david.

renee
12-17-2007, 07:52 PM
FYI-- Wet packs, as they were known in the psychiatry field, have been outlawed, at least in Maryland. However, it may be of interest to note that psychosurgery -- more commonly known as lobotomy-- is not yet outlawed. There is a psychiatrist in Glen Burnie who advocates lobotomy in some cases. These days it is done with a laser in a surgical suite in a hospital instead of with crude instruments in some back room of a psychiatric institution. Still-- it does seem barbaric.

renee
12-17-2007, 07:56 PM
Do you know what ever happened to Miss Greenberg-- the woman who wrote, "I Never Promised You A Rose Garden?" That book made a huge impression on me as a teenager and was principally responsible for my career choice, which I made pretty early on.

russell75
12-21-2007, 04:34 PM
I was a patient there from about 86 to 89, in the ACD, house 503. Havnt thought about the place in years (supressed memories I guess). Very interesting reading the threads on this site about it.

stephaniv55
02-14-2008, 10:53 AM
i do remember that name , it was discussed alot . Was there a doc there named Jaime Buenaventura back then ? they called him "Dr. B "
Yes he was my administrator at Upper Cottage where I lived as an adolescent.
Stephanie

stephaniv55
02-14-2008, 10:59 AM
Dr B Was A **** , he did try and have me committed back in 1988 , i threatened him about his parties he was having - i was going to turn his *** in for using one of the female patients for his sex parties ! He was gluttin' for punishment ... i even had witnesses lined up for that.
Are you serious? I would have loved to fry his ***. He was the most cruel human being. I still have nightmares from him.:eek:

fzsarasota
06-01-2008, 01:43 AM
Are you serious? I would have loved to fry his ***. He was the most cruel human being. I still have nightmares from him.:eek:


That is the truth... Dr B was an evil, evil, man. That whole place was just bad, very, very bad (cruel)... Maybe I'll write a book about it one day, shine a light on what really happened there (the S#$# would hit the fan)..... S$%, all I can say steph, is that I'm sorry you had to deal with that dude, sigh.

Take care and be well

-Peace.

JuneNY
06-01-2008, 11:43 AM
its kinda wierd that some people have fond memories and others say they were treated with cruelty.

LauraA
06-01-2008, 02:05 PM
.....and then there's bad bob who still to this day, continues his never-ending search for Mickey Moose.

bad bob
06-01-2008, 02:51 PM
.....and then there's bad bob who still to this day, continues his never-ending search for Mickey Moose.



Got word from Rocky yesterday that MM was on his way to VT (1st pic).
He was only there a short time when he spots his fiance, Lucy off in the distance (2nd pic).
But Lucy's former BF, Bruno stands in the way (3rd pic).

Love wins out and the new happy couple are looking to adopt a calf (4th pic), as Micky was "injured" and left unable to procreate.

LauraA
06-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Micky was "injured" and left unable to procreate.

Uh huh...I bet Rocky didn't tell you HOW Mickey came to be injured. Seems ol' Mickey is up to his old tricks again. It's time to send him back to rehab. (Just between you and I, I think his new wife is a bad influence on him.)

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bad bob
06-01-2008, 06:31 PM
Uh huh...I bet Rocky didn't tell you HOW Mickey came to be injured. Seems ol' Mickey is up to his old tricks again. It's time to send him back to rehab. (Just between you and I, I think his new wife is a bad influence on him.)

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The vet said he took a horn in the jewels....or IOW a moosectomy! :p


But poor Bruno became so distressed he hung himself.

andersmegan
08-26-2008, 09:57 PM
I am planning on writing a book on chestnut lodge and would love to get some personal experiences from former patients and staff members. Please visit my website for more information.

http://andersmegan.angelfire.com/chestnutlodge/

If you wish to contact me directly, email me at andersmegan@gmail.com

Thanks!