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Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:05 PM
I think this area is almost as good a ghost town trail as the Cochise County "trail"... I'm posting the ground shots here and aerial photos over on RCGroups forum at this link http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502323#post5301115 ...

If you haven't seen my aerials before, you can get a full explanation at WattNoise.com (http://WattNoise.com)...

First photo is the school at Klondyke... Sign above the door says Klondyke School Established in 1907...

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:08 PM
Aerial view of the Klondyke store... It was reopened a few years ago but has gone under again and is for sale...

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:11 PM
Baptist Church a couple miles N of Klondyke... Understand it reverted back to private ownership a number of years back... Someone in Phoenix owns the land now...

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:13 PM
The other "expedition" members...

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:20 PM
Something very special - the REAL Dunlap station... I work for the guy that owns this place and can't devulge specifics... But it is original and not what is reported on the Aravaipa town page... Aravaipa is about 10 miles from here... This was a stage station and PO... Some of you probably already know of it... If I can say more after talking to the boss, I will...

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:26 PM
The first 2 rooms are the original ones built for the station... The year is not known exactly (by me anyways) but I will find out and edit this... The addition that expanded the building was done in 1908 that I do know... ;)

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 06:30 PM
The last member of the "expedition"... She escorted us all around the place... If I can post the other pics I got I will once I have permission...

That's it - That's all...

Watt Noise?
Kevin

brian10x
04-07-2006, 06:56 PM
I am planning a return trip soon. Like a lot of other of my early trips, I didn't find what I was looking for (haunted Aravaipa mine) but had a great time trying.

I've been told some lady has the road blocked in protest of her son's jail sentence as a child molester. Is any of that true?

A co-worker and myself have been looking for a way around her locked gate, if this is so.

The last time I went there, I passed the old store, then crossed a crystal clear wash, and on to a really spooky area with large trees and imposing cliff walls. I remember an old outhouse, and trying the road up and to the right.

The road was all rocks, and though my Jeep could take the punishment, I was wiped out after 20 minutes and headed back.

Does any of this ring a familiar bell? Was I on track to a spectacular find?

And my most often asked, and most important question, did I zig when I should have zagged?

I'll upload some pictures if I can find them.

Brian

Watt Noise
04-07-2006, 07:24 PM
The last time I went there, I passed the old store, then crossed a crystal clear wash, and on to a really spooky area with large trees and imposing cliff walls. I remember an old outhouse, and trying the road up and to the right.

The road was all rocks, and though my Jeep could take the punishment, I was wiped out after 20 minutes and headed back.

Does any of this ring a familiar bell? Was I on track to a spectacular find?

And my most often asked, and most important question, did I zig when I should have zagged?Brian

Well, the description sounds like the Salazar Ranch area or the road towards Aravaipa... Right now no water is running anywhere so it's hard to determine just which one you mean... Salazar and the cliffs along Aravaipa Town Rd are about 8 to 9 miles away from Klondyke... As far as getting around the locked gate on Aravaipa Town Rd - I don't know of any and don't see any complete trail around it on the topos... The whole area seems a regular "Peyton Place" with the locals so the jailed son story wouldn't surprise me... Don't get me wrong though - everyone around there is the nicest I've run into in rural AZ... They're just in one of the most isolated places left in AZ... Some of the Indian reservations in N AZ are less isolated IMO... LOL...

brian10x
04-08-2006, 04:21 AM
She's the one that blocked the road. This is what I'm concerned about.

http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/snmedia/68013

Watt Noise
04-08-2006, 07:33 AM
Nothing was mentioned of that while we were there, but we didn't go that far up... The BLM page doesn't say anything about it either... http://www.blm.gov/az/sfo/aravaipa/aravaipa.htm

The ranger station is the brown building on the other side of the Klondyke store in the aerial photo above... Might be a good idea to stop and ask if you're going that direction...

Vulture
02-21-2009, 06:47 PM
I just fumbeled across this & thought it worth bring back. Really enjoyed the pics.
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Dogman
02-24-2009, 04:40 AM
I've been wanting to go out there and this thread is fuel for the fire, thanks :D

jim
06-19-2009, 08:19 PM
I have been studing the roads on Google earth and natgeo topo maps and they show a road by the name of Bear Creek about 4.5 miles past the locked gate. It intersects the road with the locked gate ( Aravaipi town road) about 7 miles up. I have a friend who has been to landsman camp and he told me he went to the ladies house mentioned and she let him through but on a return visit she wouldent let him pass. Anyway I am going to try to get my quad up there using an Magellan GPS 400 loaded with a TOPO map of the direction I mentioned. Will let you know how it went.

Vulture
06-28-2009, 02:21 PM
I've been wanting to go out there and this thread is fuel for the fire, thanks :D

Yes indeed, interesting history up there. The Apaches played havoc there mucho'.

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Norman Johnson
06-28-2009, 04:17 PM
I am finishing reading In the days of Victorio, Recollections of a Warm Springs Apach, by Eve Ball.

Where didn't the Apaches play ****? Bloodthirsty---no. Stole horses and cattle and killed many white men for every Apache killed---yes.

James Kaywaykla, the narrator, rode with Victorio, knew Mangas Coloradas' son, knew Geronimo, saw many white men and Apaches die, yet he repeats over and over that never did he see a scalp taken or the Apahes torture another human being.

To hear the other side of the story of the West, read one of Eve's books. Facinating and well written. Last night, I couldn't put it down and read to the wee hours.

NJ

Joel
06-28-2009, 04:29 PM
Eskiminzin was Geromino's equal for blood lust. He just never got the press. If you want to see Aravaipa, try the east side first. You have the town of Klondike, the ruins on Turkey Creek and the 7 canyons that feed into Aravaipa Canyon. Just never go one rainy days. Two of the side canyons are names h e l l and for good reason.



The Apaches were vilified in the press back in the day. I have heard yes and I have heard no regarding torture. Judging by the snide remarks of western travel authors in the 1850's-1880's regarding the other tribe's attitude regarding Apache dead, I'd say that they Apaches were never loved by any other tribe.