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wam
08-19-2006, 04:55 PM
We've been looking at the site and checking out all the places we'd like to see but here's another question for anyone out there. South Dakota is just divided into quarters and then the towns are listed alpha order with a number to indicate the quarter they are located in. Some have directions but some don't (eg. Igloo). Is there someplace we can go to get the coordinates for some of the more remote towns or those that don't have directions?:confused:

We're kind of new to this and really appreciate the help.

WAM

GaryB
08-19-2006, 10:20 PM
You likely won't find too many folks giving out free directions on GT's over the internet, mostly for security of the GT's themselves. Likely you have to study the maps and figure the best way in. Pick up a Delorme State Atlas or one from Benchmark, both have good details and usually show the ways in and out. Most book stores carry them and you can order direct from DeLorme too. Also try using topozone.com and the like (there are quite a few different ones out now), as they usually have anything on a paper map by using the "search for place" fill in blank.

If you are willing to spend $50, the DeLorme Topo USA program is decent and you can buy it in East or West or the whole US for $100. Check eBay as I have seen it there cheaper. It also works with most GPS units if you happen to have one.

wam
08-20-2006, 06:28 AM
Thanks Gary, I've never heard of that! Are the gazetters that you can get anywhere any good? We bought one but now I think probably a waste of $$

modette
08-20-2006, 07:00 AM
We've been looking at the site and checking out all the places we'd like to see but here's another question for anyone out there. South Dakota is just divided into quarters and then the towns are listed alpha order with a number to indicate the quarter they are located in. Some have directions but some don't (eg. Igloo). Is there someplace we can go to get the coordinates for some of the more remote towns or those that don't have directions?:confused:

We're kind of new to this and really appreciate the help.

WAM

Buy a Delorme (Atlas & Gazetteer) of your state. I got the NV one and most of the towns are located right on the Atlas along with the roads to get to them. https://shop.delorme.com/OA_HTML/DELibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=10096

Also a GPS is nice to have, I have one for the laptop and use Streets & Trips 2004 (which also shows a lot of the ghost towns" and the roads to get to them.

Plus it shows mines too....

modette
08-20-2006, 07:06 AM
Here is a sample of the Gazetteer for NV:

http://www.needabike.com/pic/GT/Delormemap.jpg

Cecile
08-20-2006, 11:38 AM
Half the fun of ghosttowning is in the search - whether it be finding the books & maps on the places or just driving around a backcountry road hoping to bump into one;)

Goat
08-20-2006, 12:52 PM
I agree, Cecile. That is a HUGE part of the fun of this hobby for me, too.

Goat

brian10x
08-20-2006, 06:30 PM
I agree, Cecile. That is a HUGE part of the fun of this hobby for me, too.

Goat

Yeah, its like the difference between being served a steak and chasing a wild cow naked with nothing on but a loincloth and armed with just a marine K-Bar knife and wrestling the beast to the ground, butchering it where it lay, and eating its still beating heart. Now thats adventure! Not that I have ever done something like that, of course~

As long as we play twister after the hunt.

coolguy0621
08-21-2006, 11:31 AM
OMG LOL that's ******* awsome. Brain you ARE the man with no shame!!!!!!!!!

coolguy0621
08-21-2006, 11:50 AM
Half the fun of ghosttowning is in the search - whether it be finding the books & maps on the places or just driving around a backcountry road hoping to bump into one;)

Me too, But I'm more of an explorer instead of a ghosttowner. I think finding and exploring caves is harder/more rewarding, but then again I haven't ever really went out to look for just ghosttowns. I've found/camped at some tho. And because of what I've read here I think I'll read up on what is the area next time.

jmnardo
08-21-2006, 04:29 PM
Brand new to the form, and do I have a lot of questions.

First an easy one. How does the information contained in the Gazetteer compare to information on the USGS maps? After investing close to $100 for the electronic topos for California, I'd rather not spend another $40. But the sample shown looks interesting...

GaryB
08-21-2006, 06:00 PM
First an easy one. How does the information contained in the Gazetteer compare to information on the USGS maps? After investing close to $100 for the electronic topos for California, I'd rather not spend another $40. But the sample shown looks interesting...


I use 3 paper map Atlas's for Nevada myself. The ones from DeLorme and Benchmark, as well as the one made by the state DOT. The NDOT one is nice since the maps are older and list some stuff that seems intentionally left off or over looked on newer maps. I don't know if other states make these map Atlas's, but if they do, they might be worth checking into. The DeLorme and Benchmark are funny as they both show things the other doesn't (DeLorme vs. Benchmark). The only issue I have with those two are the minor roads tend to not be as detailed as they are on USGS and similar maps. But, FME you can look at a USGS (either digital or paper) and usually find the same road on them. The DeLorme and Benchmark are good to have out on the trail for quick reference IMO. But they do show the roads better than some, so you know if you have a highway, graded dirt, or a trail to follow.

But I know what you mean about the software USGS maps. I picked up 3 different programs specifically for or covering Nevada and have really enjoyed using them as I have found numerous new roads and places to see. Having a program that has every USGS map on it is nice, especially since there are over 300 7 minute maps for Nevada alone.

LauraA
08-21-2006, 06:41 PM
You disgusting pervert, if you had any class you'd keep your sick private life to yourself. It has no place here.
Those that encourage you & find this funny are the same.
Sickening crap...
TW

"Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged"

I suppose the "What a cute chest" comment on another thread was more classy or appropriate?

bad bob
08-21-2006, 08:11 PM
You disgusting pervert, if you had any class you'd keep your sick private life to yourself. It has no place here.

Those that encourage you & find this funny are the same.

Sickening crap...

TW

Say mister...why don't ya try to calm down a few notches?
This forum may not be the perfect board it once was, but is it really that big of a deal?
I see a lot of people being helped here one way or another, whether it's gt conditions, directions, or info on guns.
Humor can be therapeutic for some, and dispensing humor can also be therapy. If it bothers you that much, there is an option here to set some posters on your "ignore" list. That way, my posts, or Brian's or Laura's become invisible to you, whenever you, and whoever else agrees with you, log on to this forum.
Lighten up chief, there's plenty of room here.

BTW, I won't put you on an "ignore" list because I wanna see what ya have to say, positive OR NEGATIVE. I'm also not gonna get into another flame war with you over this...BT,DT...and would only be counterproductive to rehash old subjects, childish namecalling, etc., etc.
SERMON OVER...CONTROL OF YOUR TELEVISION SET IS NOW RETURNED TO YOU.
bb.

LauraA
08-22-2006, 01:43 PM
LEVITICUS 18:22
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, it is abomination."




TW Darlin' :rolleyes: I'm afraid your meaning escapes me. (don't forget, I'm just a non-trailblazing, latter-day societal dropout so you might have to spell it out, slowly)
Wouldn't Exodus 21:23-27 be more appropriate for the topic at hand?

bad bob
08-22-2006, 02:52 PM
L,

In a nut shell that even a NY liberal, politically correct, everything is beautiful in it's own way lovin', fellow scriptural enthusiast can understand.....this passage establishes homosexality as sinful. I don't expect a celebration of smut when I'm looking at ghosttowns.com. , Brians photo's are homosexual in content., that's the connection. ****, he even admits he's ***. It's not a *** forum & it's not cricket to subject this type of content to folks who don't expect it here & I don't appreciate having smut pushed in my face even if it's called "humor" by some.

The express purpose for the existance of this forum is ghosttowns/western history, not homosexual porn.

I'm not saying Brian has to go, I'm no saying anybody has to go. I'm saying THE PORN HAS TO GO.

Not everyone likes to look at morbidly obese mens skidmarked bottoms! GET IT!!!!!!!!!! But since you & Brian & Bob do, E-mail each other with your faves & rock each others world. Just keep it outa here. Get it?

& that's alll I have to say about that, or is it?

TW

Anyone that believes Brian is ***, is more than just a little misguided. (Not that there's anything wrong with being homosexual).
It appears that you've only seen certain posts from Brian, which is understandable, but then you rendered your verdict from them. Anyone can be taken out of context.
I must say it puzzles me some, when you, who are so adamantly upset, do not take advantage of the "ignore" option instead of runnin' yer blood pressures by ranting and raving. It can't be that difficult to reset.

GaryB
08-22-2006, 04:02 PM
Mommy! Daddy! Stop fighting!


Actually I agree the pic was out of place (forum wise per say) but that's all I read into it. It's not my house though, so I can't make the rules. Since it's still there, I guess Admin don't care either.

LauraA
08-22-2006, 04:40 PM
Gary, It is too bad the administrator doesn't step in. I see the name Ghosttowns.com signed on quite often, so I'm sure he knows there's turmoil among the rank and file. Whether or not I approve of the pictures in question isn't an issue, but I find the personal attacks offensive and I do realize that fighting fire with fire isn't the answer but....:rolleyes:

Thank you for trying to maintain a modicum of decorum around here, it's appreciated.

GaryB
08-22-2006, 04:49 PM
Thank you for trying to maintain a modicum of decorum around here, it's appreciated.



Just don't tell anyone okay? I'm usually known for being the one that stirs the pot and just as it brewing good, dumping dynamite in it :D

Kelly
08-22-2006, 04:54 PM
I have seen this on other forums,:mad: When it gets back to ghosttown talk I'll come back.

LauraA
08-22-2006, 04:54 PM
Gary, Mum's ...errrr... Mom's the word ;)

bad bob
08-22-2006, 07:57 PM
I have seen this on other forums,:mad: When it gets back to ghosttown talk I'll come back.

Hang in there Kel.
Looks like the main focus has been resolved. Sorry for any inconvenience...this really is a great site...just some of the folks here get outta hand.
But, you gotta realize some of them are old and cranky, and ...well, I'm sure ya understand.
Ya don't need to leave tho ok? Give' em another chance! One more fer the gipper! Ooops, does that phrase age me?

High Desert Drifter
08-22-2006, 09:04 PM
Brand new to the form, and do I have a lot of questions.

First an easy one. How does the information contained in the Gazetteer compare to information on the USGS maps? After investing close to $100 for the electronic topos for California, I'd rather not spend another $40. But the sample shown looks interesting...

I prefer to have lots of maps. or at least the ones from the BLM / Forest service, the states Gazetteer, Mapsource Topo for Garmin gps. when exploring you can never have enough, or should I say study enough. they all differ and the information you can put together from studying and comparing may make the difference in a successful trip. I would even encourage you to try and find early maps of the area you are going to visit (1800's-early 1900's). and compare those as well. trails and roads change directions over the years or it may be one of those old maps that leads you to a neat find.

Kelly
08-23-2006, 05:17 AM
Bad Bob,
Ok;)

Kelly
08-23-2006, 05:19 AM
bad bob,

OK ;)

LauraA
08-23-2006, 05:29 AM
Glad to see you hung in there Kelly. :)


singin' to the tune.."There will be peace in the valley" ;)


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