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Mini Me
11-15-2006, 10:23 AM
I first visited Courtland in 2004. I recently visited this last summer. The site now has no tresspassing signs up and a fence as well. I also saw a small travel trailer parked up the hill. What is up, is the site now off limits?

brian10x
11-15-2006, 05:43 PM
I first visited Courtland in 2004. I recently visited this last summer. The site now has no tresspassing signs up and a fence as well. I also saw a small travel trailer parked up the hill. What is up, is the site now off limits?

I was there a couple of weeks ago. The jail is still accessible, as is the area around it, and across the street. Up the trail a bit is a no trespassing sign, but you can easily walk around it. (see picture) and a few others as well. Most of the areas are still accessible if you sneak in quietly.

Mini Me
11-16-2006, 04:54 PM
I had thought about going around the gate. The trailer made me think twice. The first time I visited I never drove far enough down the road to get to the jail, so I explored the area you have in the picture. If it wasn't for the gate, on my second visit, I probably would have never driven up the road and found the jail. Thanks for the reply, I hope to visit Courtland again in 2007.

brian10x
11-16-2006, 07:02 PM
Since we are on the subject, I've been scouring the web looking for the original city plan, or old photos from the era.

I'm trying to find out exactly where the theatre, the car dealership, etc were, as I'd like to explore there.

If anyone reading this has seen older photos of the city of Courtland, please contact me. Many thanks!

widleewidleewaa
11-16-2006, 07:45 PM
Theres not many pictures out there,but I did find one.

I also have a good sat photo if you want that too.

widleewidleewaa
11-16-2006, 07:52 PM
I also found this posted on a site while I was looking for info.


Description



Courtland was once a booming copper town named for Courtland Young, a mining engineer. There are two buildings and a few ruins left to see, as well as one single resident who doesn't like visitors.

widleewidleewaa
11-16-2006, 07:58 PM
Ok one more time........ If you have ebay there is a guy selling a 52 1/2" x 12 1/2'' photo.( the same picture i posted above). For $34.95.

brian10x
11-17-2006, 04:17 AM
Thanks, Wildweewee.

Thats the best photo I have seen yet. If I could just locate the jail in that picture, I would be all set, since it is the easiest building to identify right now.

Yes, I would be delighted to see your sat. picture.

I promise to save you a Stevens-Duryea hubcap if I get lucky!

widleewidleewaa
11-17-2006, 12:08 PM
heres the link: http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=31.770503~-109.811212&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-89.9997993795427&dir=0&alt=2994.21337883454&scene=5700128

The link takes you to microsoft virtual earth.

brian10x
11-17-2006, 08:11 PM
Thanks, Weewee! I downloded the 3d software, which helps a lot, but it still lacks enough detail to make out landmarks, for me, at least.

I guess that much detail is reserved for military use only, or so I hear.

Blackwater
04-13-2008, 05:05 PM
If I could just locate the jail in that picture, I would be all set, since it is the easiest building to identify right now.

If you look at the biggest pic, all the way to the right you will see what appears to be a big building. Next to it across the street looks like the profile of the jail. Those two building match up almost exactly with the ruins of a giant foundation and the jail although I cannot confirm it.

There is also another possibilty. Directly left of that big buidling I listed above is another building that could be the jail as well although I think based on the current lay of the land, my first choice is the best one.

Joel
04-13-2008, 05:52 PM
If it helps, the jail is on a bend in the road.

brian10x
04-13-2008, 05:54 PM
If it helps, the jail is on a bend in the road.

To me, the biggest clue, is that the jail is concrete, and most other buildings are wood, and that should give the building on the bend a decidedly different look.

Vulture
04-13-2008, 07:07 PM
Only a few buildings were wood. They were mostly concrete, stone, & adobe.
V

Joel
04-13-2008, 07:42 PM
If you can get down to the Arizona Historical Society:
http://lista.azhist.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=2&ti=1,2&Search_Arg=courtland&Search_Code=FT*&PID=5730&CNT=10&SEQ=20080413204231&SID=1

Survey and plat of townsite of Courtland. It's from 1909.

brian10x
04-13-2008, 08:34 PM
If you can get down to the Arizona Historical Society:
http://lista.azhist.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=2&ti=1,2&Search_Arg=courtland&Search_Code=FT*&PID=5730&CNT=10&SEQ=20080413204231&SID=1

Survey and plat of townsite of Courtland. It's from 1909.

Thanks, Joel, but could you try again? All I got was:

There was an Error processing your request.
This error was due to the process timing out. Please consult your librarian if you need more information.

Blackwater
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Survey and plat of townsite of Courtland no. 3 / surveyed for W. Kline ; surveyed by W.J. Hurd.

http://lista.azhist.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=2&ti=1,2&Search_Arg=courtland&Search_Code=FT*&PID=5898&CNT=10&SEQ=20080413224902&SID=1

I'm glad someone mentioned the historical society. I was looking for data on Harshaw, because it was hard to believe that place was as big as it was with literally nothing there now. I found one pic on the web of the mill there and it was from the AZ historical society...so I have been wanting to get there to do some research as well.

I seem to be more interested in how these places were in their hay days then in what they are now.

LauraA
04-14-2008, 03:23 AM
Try this link. WebVoyager Intro (http://lista.azhist.arizona.edu/) It's the main page for the historical society, you can begin a search from there.

brian10x
04-14-2008, 03:52 AM
Thanks for the help everybody! I'm on it.

Joel
04-14-2008, 05:02 AM
I think you'll need to go down to the AHS by the U of A for the map. They will make a copy for you.

Vulture
04-14-2008, 05:07 AM
[quote=Blackwater
I'm glad someone mentioned the historical society. I was looking for data on Harshaw, because it was hard to believe that place was as big as it was with literally nothing there now. I found one pic on the web of the mill there and it was from the AZ historical society...so I have been wanting to get there to do some research as well.

I seem to be more interested in how these places were in their hay days then in what they are now.[/quote]

There were several buildings remaining in Harshaw including a Catholic Church, dancehall & school. The Forest service bulldozed them in the 60's. The only things they left were occupied homes where the owners had clear title.
V