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sbruce
09-14-2007, 03:46 PM
Wondering if any ghost towners in the Sacramento region would like a trip to Bodie and Goldfield soon, or to Death Valley in October. Death Valley might be better since there are more new places to explore there. Any other ideas?

sbruce
10-04-2007, 04:28 PM
Everyone is so busy under the corporate boot they don't have time to enjoy life unless they are retired and by then its tooooo late? :mad:

Tyroler
11-05-2007, 10:54 AM
have in Mind anywhere between Aurora-Walker Lake-Mono Lake
Steve Fosset is searched,under other Areas,in that Area.
May go with Tent,Backpack and Metaldetector for a few Weeks.
:) Not so Hot in Februar
http://mcnucprojects.com/album/MineralCounty/index.htm

Oh,Just see,
Wichita Fall,TX,on 28th,29th Februar and 1th March 2008
Is a 3Day 25 Year Celebration

Gravelrash
11-05-2007, 09:56 PM
http://mcnucprojects.com/album/MineralCounty/index.htm


Nice link Tyroler. It surely is a spectacular looking area.

Mah fellow merkins - is Hawthorn a civilian no-go area or only certain parts of it?

GaryB
11-05-2007, 11:06 PM
Mah fellow merkins - is Hawthorn a civilian no-go area or only certain parts of it?


Just parts of it. The highway (US95) used to go through town, but then they created a truck route that bypasses it. But almost everyone uses it. I think it might have hurt the town some IMO. It's a shame too, because one of the few interesting things on that god-forsaken trip (Vegas to Reno) is checking out the small towns.

Also, the highway is really close to the ammo dumps, so you can check them out.

Gravelrash
11-06-2007, 01:14 AM
Also, the highway is really close to the ammo dumps, so you can check them out.

That was the idea, mate. From GE perspective, it looks really interesting.

That drive is tedious, yeah?
Just a b.t.w, is Las Vegas as "chintzy" as it's depicted? It's almost an unreal place in my mind, like a mirage.

Flatiron
11-06-2007, 04:46 AM
Tyroler............You definitely won't need to worry about the heat if you make the trip in Febuary, but may want to think about some cold weather BDU's. It can get pretty nippy around Aurora, Mt. Hicks, and Lucky Boy that time of the year. Thanks for the link to Mineral County. There's some beautiful county in Nevada, as ya know. GaryB can attest to that.

Tyroler
11-06-2007, 07:49 AM
Is there anything around Wichita Falls?
Were a nice Party:cool:





ANNUAL CONVENTION

http://www.uschi.com/convention-ad-08.jpg

GaryB
11-06-2007, 02:24 PM
That drive is tedious, yeah?
Just a b.t.w, is Las Vegas as "chintzy" as it's depicted? It's almost an unreal place in my mind, like a mirage.

Depends on what you're into I guess. I have done the trip so many times it's boring. I'm sure you can attest to driving 400+ miles and not seeing very much. From Vegas to Tonopah it's down right suicidal IMO. Except for Goldfield and Beatty, it's sage brush and more sage brush. From Tonopah to Reno, you at least get a town every so often to keep you interested. For someone like yourself, never having seen it, it might be a hoot. You do get to see some neat geological stuff, plus you can see how the foliage changes from green high desert to the brown desert of the upper Mojave. And if you take the time to explore each town and see the sights of the highway, there's neat stuff to see. I've always been in a semi-hurry, so I haven't explored too much.


Las Vegas is pretty much a mirage in the desert. It's built on money, so anything that creates issues with creating more money is crushed and done away with. History has very little value here, and it's an act of God to get something saved from destruction. They tear it down, build up new bigger and gaudier sights that attract more money. Planning is done on the here and now and varies upon which housing contractor or casino is paying off which representative(s).

We're in trouble with water, zoning, over crowding in schools and roads, etc. The casino's make billions yet pay very little tax. Illegals are rampant. I can go on and on. Likely it's the same with any big(er) city, but when you have a mayor that's got a contract with a gin maker and spends more time trying to get a pro sports team to town than fixing the real issues, it makes you feel special. And not a good special.

It used to be a decent place to live (born and raised) but it has quickly become an abscess IMO. If you like the night life or entertaining, it's the greatest place in the US for that. But other than that, it's losing it's luster. At least with the natives. We're jumping ship every chance we get, and it's getting harder to find someone that's been here for more than 10 years.


Ehh, maybe I'm just disgruntle. Either way, plans are being set so my wife and I are not here by next winter. That will be a good day :D

bob3 was bob2
11-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Ya, I know what you mean Gary, and I moved out of California and to Sparks NV for that very reason. I lived in Sparks for about a year, but they don't pay much, so we have moved back to Mexifornia. Sparks is very nice, but the illegal aliens are starting to flood that area too. Its sad to see the country taken over without a single shot being fired!

Vegas has always reminded me California, and you guys have been swamped with illegal aliens. The area I am currently in must have a population of 50% illegal alien! Anyway, I can't wait to get the **** out of here again. Should only have to live here another 8 months! :eek: Are you planning on staying in NV?

Gravelrash
11-06-2007, 03:23 PM
Gary - I'm most definitely NOT a "bright lights, big city" type. No way, no how. I find humble old Churchill, pop 3,700, just about all I can take. So you don't sound disgruntled to me. More like - sensible.
I wouldn't mind seeing Las Vegas but I'd prefer that view to be from a hill overlooking it!
I really wish you and your wife all the best with the plans to get away from it all.


"but when you have a mayor that's got a contract with a gin maker and spends more time trying to get a pro sports team to town than fixing the real issues, it makes you feel special. And not a good special."
You've just given me a new defining image of Vegas!


Yeah, driving 400 miles through not much at all is a very common Australian experience. I don't mind it too much as it means I'm on the road.
As I'll only be there once, it will be an adventure but I can imagine it gets a bit tedious after 50 or so trips.
Tonopah has been stuck in my head ever since "Little Feat" linked it with Tehatchapi, Tucumcari and Tucson so it will be a bit of a pop-culture high-point for me.

The desert terrain in that part of America has a real pull on me. The photos I see from that part of the world are like magnets.

Bob
11-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Gary. Another way of saying it is that Las Vegas is addicted to greed and unchecked growth. Unchecked growth is the main paradigm of a cancer cell. I was born here, grew up on a ranch, got a good education from Paradise Elementary to a Graduate school at UNLV and I can tell you, there is another side to Nevada and it is just outside the bright lights.

The fact is that 99% of the inhabitants of Las Vegas donít know or care sure makes it better for those of us like Gary and myself who do. I can drive a half hour and lose myself in a forest or a desert with little likelihood of encountering another human being. I can still find Ghost towns and critters within the evening glow of sin city.



Just parts of it. The highway (US95) used to go through town, but then they created a truck route that bypasses it. But almost everyone uses it. I think it might have hurt the town some IMO. It's a shame too, because one of the few interesting things on that god-forsaken trip (Vegas to Reno) is checking out the small towns.

Also, the highway is really close to the ammo dumps, so you can check them out.

The drive from Las Vegas to Reno is only boring if you take US-95 and donít adventure off it! If you continue through Hawthorne, turn left at the light, catch the dirt road over Lucky Boy Pass and on down to Sweetwater you can have fun. Lots to explore off that dirt road like Aurora and a back way to Bodie for the 4wd enthusiast. If you take the dirt road from Sweetwater toward Yerington you can find all sorts of nifty places (Pine Grove, Rockland, even the ranch Steve Fosset Flew out of on his last flight) with short excursions.

Flatiron
11-06-2007, 05:47 PM
Bob.............I agree with you wholeheartedly. Pine Grove and Rockland are neat ghost towns to visit, and the Sweetwaters are just plain beautiful. If I could buy 40 acres in the Sweetwaters, I'd be in heaven. There's also also Belfort, Star City, and the Kentuck Mine on the way to the summit of Mt. Patterson. Smith Valley probably wouldn't be a bad place to live, either. The nice thing about exploring the back roads of the Sweetwaters, is that you can drive the back roads all day long and never see another person. Very nice..........

GaryB
11-06-2007, 08:15 PM
Are you planning on staying in NV?


Definitely. My family history is originally from Lincoln County (Panaca specifically, about 1856 give or take) and we like it up there. In reality, it's only 150 miles from Vegas, but it's another world. It's 27 miles from Caliente to Pioche with Panaca in between. I'd be happy in any of them, though we'll likely end up outside one of them on a decent sized lot.

GaryB
11-06-2007, 08:34 PM
Gary. I can tell you, there is another side to Nevada and it is just outside the bright lights.

Oh I know all about that. It's going to those places that keep me from taking hostages when I'm in town. Just getting tired of dealing with all the BS that comes with living here though. Some of it I can blow off, but it's getting harder and harder every day to ignore it.



The drive from Las Vegas to Reno is only boring if you take US-95 and donít adventure off it!

That was really what I meant. The couple times I have been able to explore I did see a lot. Unfortunately as a kid, my Dad kept a time frame for getting to Gardnerville, Reno and Pollock Pines, Ca. to visit family. Once we went via Mono Lake from Coaldale Junction. The rest of my trips were usually work related or weekend jaunts.

I have been planning to hit the lower west side of the state ever since David Wright turned me on to Sylvania, as if I needed anymore places to add to my "to see list" :rolleyes: If all goes well, I might be over that way next spring to explore and let the missus check off a few more state historical markers.

Gravelrash
11-06-2007, 08:48 PM
It's going to those places that keep me from taking hostages when I'm in town.

He,he, he. Ain't that the truth!


If all goes well, I might be over that way next spring to explore and let the missus check off a few more state historical markers.

Mate, this is my "secret" to getting to all the interesting places. Get She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed convinced there's something "up there" she'd be interested in, something to do with flowers or gardens, and then I'm free to take the dirt roads..... as long as there's a bed and a hot shower at the end, she's very compliant.
Making it sound like it's her idea is just the icing on the cake (not that that happens very often!;) )

GaryB
11-07-2007, 11:49 AM
Actually, my wife quite enjoys exploring ghost towns and mines with me. She may not get too excited when we find a pile of ruble that was once a town, regardless of how much I research and cram knowledge of it into my noggin'. But when we find a site with plenty to explore, she's like a little kid in a toy store. She also enjoys the great outdoors whether we're camping, offroading, or just taking a scenic drive.

Just some of the reasons I kept her around ;)

Gravelrash
11-08-2007, 01:45 PM
Actually, my wife quite enjoys exploring ghost towns and mines with me. She may not get too excited when we find a pile of ruble that was once a town, regardless of how much I research and cram knowledge of it into my noggin'. But when we find a site with plenty to explore, she's like a little kid in a toy store. She also enjoys the great outdoors whether we're camping, offroading, or just taking a scenic drive.

Just some of the reasons I kept her around ;)


You're a fortunate man, Gary. I was only joshing about "good lady, my wife". She's a straight shooter, just falls asleep anywhere, anytime, usually as we are reaching an "Oh, wow, look at that" moment!
But, as she indulges all my dirt road whims ....she's a keeper too!
For a Bangkok girl, she does just fine.

David A. Wright
11-09-2007, 01:47 PM
Just parts of it. The highway (US95) used to go through town, but then they created a truck route that bypasses it. But almost everyone uses it.
I don't use it. Gotta drive through town to make sure the VFW hall (ex-Carson & Colorado Railroad depot) is still standing, enjoy the drive through town and stop at Micky D's for a shake. Actually, I've never taken the bypass, but I can't see where it would actually save time unless you get caught at the light at the junction of US95 and the road to Mono Lake.

David A. Wright
11-09-2007, 01:50 PM
Just a b.t.w, is Las Vegas as "chintzy" as it's depicted? It's almost an unreal place in my mind, like a mirage.
Las Wages can be beautiful and surrealistic at night. But during the day, it's ugly and the typical gridlocked city at rush hour.

Last time I was in Vegas was in 1999 and I was trying to find WalMart. Took me two hours and stops a numerous convenience stores to ask directions. What a pain. By the time I found WalMart and got what I needed (a new air mattress to replace the one I ripped the night before that I was using on the eastern side of Death Valley for camping in the back of my truck), I was never so happy to get back on the interstate and head northeast to Meadow Valley Wash!

David A. Wright
11-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I can still find Ghost towns and critters within the evening glow of sin city.
That must include Trona, California. You can easily see the glow of LV from Trona. Even pick up KJUL-FM ("The Jewel") in Trona.


... dirt road over Lucky Boy Pass ...
Great road. Most exciting. The only place I nearly fell down a mine shaft was at Lucky Boy ghost town ... :eek:

David A. Wright
11-09-2007, 02:00 PM
I have been planning to hit the lower west side of the state ever since David Wright turned me on to Sylvania, as if I needed anymore places to add to my "to see list" :rolleyes: If all goes well, I might be over that way next spring to explore and let the missus check off a few more state historical markers.
Look me up when you come, I'll guide you there. Although I'll have to get directions now. A buddy of mine was over there a couple weeks ago and said the road in from Fish Lake Valley is now washed completely off the map. Have to come in from the Gold Point side.

Bob
11-09-2007, 03:35 PM
Look me up when you come, I'll guide you there. Although I'll have to get directions now. A buddy of mine was over there a couple weeks ago and said the road in from Fish Lake Valley is now washed completely off the map. Have to come in from the Gold Point side.


Hey David

I collect towns (ghosts and otherwise) in Nevada. I've found several 1860/70s maps showing Piper's just west of the state line in Fish Lake Valley but I believe after they adjusted the boundary, Piper's is now in Nevada. There is another Fish Lake Valley town a bit west of Pipers called Roachville. I place it just barely in California today. Do you concur or have any comments.