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High Desert Drifter
04-10-2008, 03:00 PM
while surfing around the internet I found the following group that is gaining headway on taking public land and turning it in to non-access land under the wet/wildlands program. And it's working. there was a meeting in Hawthorne just recently between this group and the BLM re: listing some of the lands as wildlands and cutting off access!

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm

High Desert Drifter
04-10-2008, 03:20 PM
while surfing around the internet I found the following group that is gaining headway on taking public land and turning it in to non-access land under the wet/wildlands program. And it's working. there was a meeting in Hawthorne just recently between this group and the BLM re: listing some of the lands as wildlands and cutting off access!

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm


Here is the alert put out by the Blue Ribon Coalition! http://www.sharetrails.org/alerts/?alert=777

LauraA
04-10-2008, 05:03 PM
Tonto National Forest is constantly being barraged by the unwashed, unkempt, hoards of tree huggers wanting to close off access to places we're used to going. Thus far, little has been done on either side of the issue except for meetings to schedule more meetings. There's been of chest thumping being done in the name of the Southwest Willow Flycatcher temporarily keeping people away from their nesting places, but so far, closures have been temporary. I'm not going to panic just yet on an upstart group of people who don't want humans to access the land. :rolleyes:
The Wildlands Project has only scored one western victory as far as I know. A rancher in N.E. Arizona willed his very large ranch, to be held in a trust by the Feds, but with the condition that they allow hunting and fishing on his land, along with passage through it via federally maintained roads. Not much of a victory in my opinion. Personally, I think he did it to keep his kids from selling off parcels of the land for development after his death.
I'm more concerned with road closures than with huge chunks of land being lost all at one time. Sounds like a tree hugger's pipedream to me. :D

DirtyDog
04-10-2008, 05:28 PM
while surfing around the internet I found the following group that is gaining headway on taking public land and turning it in to non-access land under the wet/wildlands program. And it's working. there was a meeting in Hawthorne just recently between this group and the BLM re: listing some of the lands as wildlands and cutting off access!

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm
It would appear to me that the BLM is just spinning its wheels. They cannot change the land use, or roads, without Congressional Approval. www.RS2477.com (http://www.RS2477.com), which governs the closing of public lands, or attempts to do so by BLM or USFS covers this exact scenario. I suggest you copy this into your "Favorite's" for future use or referral.

bad bob
04-10-2008, 05:47 PM
Better find another link...that one says "object not found" when I click on it.

DirtyDog
04-10-2008, 07:49 PM
It would appear to me that the BLM is just spinning its wheels. They cannot change the land use, or roads, without Congressional Approval. www.RS2477.com (http://www.RS2477.com), which governs the closing of public lands, or attempts to do so by BLM or USFS covers this exact scenario. I suggest you copy this into your "Favorite's" for future use or referral.
This is a link that works:
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm

High Desert Drifter
04-10-2008, 08:30 PM
I vote we pull OJ out of retirement and elect him our attorney and lobbiest for ghost towners free passage!

bob3 was bob2
04-10-2008, 09:16 PM
Don't worry, the government is sure to take care of us.....:o

bad bob
04-10-2008, 11:30 PM
I vote we pull OJ out of retirement and elect him our attorney and lobbiest for ghost towners free passage!



I'd 2nd that, but I doubt if OJ'd take a dee-motion to attorney. Lobbyist he'd prob be OK with. :D

bad bob
04-10-2008, 11:31 PM
This is a link that works:
http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/wildlands_project_step_by_step.htm




Muchismus gracias senor. :)

LauraA
04-11-2008, 03:04 AM
This is a good site to keep track of RS2477 and any proposed changes they want to make to it. Thus far, changes have been shot down, but after the election...who knows? :rolleyes:
H.R. 308: R.S. 2477 Rights-Of-Way Recognition Act (GovTrack.us) (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?tab=summary&bill=h110-308)