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Cascavel1
11-20-2009, 03:51 PM
He all this is my first post on the forum. Just started looking through some threads on here today and got a bug to try and find BDM. I can see it on Google Earth but it seems from others who have tried it's not as easy as it looks on paper.

Any ideas on the best side of the range to access it? I think hiking over from Henry Canyon on the west side might be doable but if there is a way to get up from the east side without having to go through locked gates and such I'd like to try that.

Thanks for any help.

Cas:D

Joel
11-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Black Diamond Mine and Black Diamond are in two places. Henry Canyon will take you to what is left of the old town and there isn't much there. No gates, no fences, but you're talking about is bush-whacking in Cochise County which has more thorns than cactus!
What's got you interested in that place? I can take you there. It's going to be rough at best. The ruins aren't as grand as thought. Seems most things were sold to the Japanese in the 1930's.

Cascavel1
11-21-2009, 02:47 PM
Actually I am looking to get up to the talus slides and tailings piles close to the mines. I photograph rattlesnakes and looking at the area on GE makes it look perfect for them.

Vulture
11-21-2009, 03:04 PM
http://forums.ghosttowns.com/showthread.php?t=15952&highlight=black+diamond

Here is again...

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Joel
11-21-2009, 04:04 PM
Ok, the south side of Black Diamond Peak has a ton of tailings, but only a hard core herp would go there to lift rocks.
I can post a few snake pics if you would like, but we live in Arizona. No one has to drive from Phoenix to the Dragoons to find a rattler!

Cascavel1
11-21-2009, 04:29 PM
Is it easier to get up there from the east side or west side of the range?

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:30 PM
I came across these beauties in just one day in the Samaniego Hills out by Sasco kind of. A lot of luck and a little research will do it!
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509101.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509100.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509097.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509096.jpg

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:32 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509095.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509094.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509093.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509092.jpg

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:33 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509089.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509088.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509087.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509086.jpg

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:33 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509085.jpghttp://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509084.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/Crotalusmolossus090509083.jpg

Cascavel1
11-21-2009, 04:35 PM
What part of the state is that from? Cool looking blacktail!!

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:35 PM
For Vulture.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509201.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509202.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509203.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509204.jpg

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:36 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509172.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509157.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509158.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509154.jpg

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:38 PM
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509125.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509029.jpg
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509036.jpg
It's a desert out there. I just don't see the point of driving all those miles unless you really want to.

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:40 PM
I found it easier going from west to east to in. Fences to the north and the far east. Just stick to the NW in the canyon. It seems the natural incline is the SW which will screw you up and send you in the wrong direction.

Joel
11-21-2009, 04:48 PM
The Samaniego Hills are between Silver Bell and Sasco. Pinal/Pima Counties.

Vulture
11-22-2009, 02:15 PM
For Vulture.
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm255/Nightly_Knight/New%20One/090509201.jpg


That's Mortise, I'd know that happy face anywhere.

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Cascavel1
11-22-2009, 04:09 PM
Great series of pics Joel! Love that tiger rattlesnake. Thanks for the help with BDM! Really cool place!!!