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mojaverider4life
05-23-2013, 08:12 AM
anyone here know the punishment for breaking into a sealed mine (if caught) via a small torch or sawzaw?? via the metal bat doors.

not that i plan to do it but never new the punishment if caught doing such an act.

ButteGhost
07-17-2013, 11:37 PM
I believe if its on private property or a claim you would get trespassing charge along with breaking and entering charge
and if you remove anything like gold you would get "theft of gold" or whatever you "stole" this was on the radio about a year ago some people broke into a mine

but a lot of mines are on public lands and most here in California aren't locked up

El Burro Camaro
07-18-2013, 09:33 AM
It probably would be breaking and entering if it was private land. Most states that is a felony charge so I would say its I'll advised. If its public land that isn't managed by the NPS or BLM you should be fine entering but you have to do a lot research beforehand to determine who the owner is if any.

bad bob
07-18-2013, 03:38 PM
anyone here know the punishment for breaking into a sealed mine (if caught) via a small torch or sawzaw?? via the metal bat doors.

not that i plan to do it but never new the punishment if caught doing such an act.



Besides breaking & entering, trespassing and possible theft, you would be required to wear a big sign around your neck: "I'M STUPID!" :D

Many of those places have deep unmarked pits, lethal gases, sharp objects and other hazards. Once you fall 100 ft or more into a dark pit, you'll likely never be seen again, especially if you go alone. Ya gotta ask yourself: "do I feel lucky?"

Dezdan
07-21-2013, 08:00 AM
If you do it on Federal land (BLM/NPS/FWS/BOR/USFS) and are caught, you will be cited for a host of charges!

I'm not sure of the DOI CFR's, but for the USFS you will likely be charged with:
36CFR 261.9(a): Damaging any natural feature or other property of the United States.
36CFR 261.9(e): Entering any building, structure, or enclosed area owned or controlled by the United States when such building, structure, or enclosed area is not open to the public.
If the site is known to have T&E bats: 36CFR 261.53(a): [It is prohibited to go into or be upon any area which is closed for the protection of] Threatened, endangered, rare, unique, or vanishing species of plants, animals, birds or fish.

The fines on the above CFR's vary region to region. You will also be held liable for the entire cost of repairing whatever damage has been caused, not just the re-welding, but all the admin cost of placing the job out for bid, hiring the lowest bidder/preparing the contract, and the full contractors bid - so thousands of dollars! Additionally, any tools used to do such an act will be seized and depending on the officers mood and how honest you are with the officer, they could impound/seize your vehicle if you used it to access the site (mind you, if they only impound it, you are responsible for the towing fee and the storage fee when the vehicle is relinquished to you - could be months @ ~$40 a day storage fee).

El Burro Camaro
08-24-2013, 07:06 AM
Just bumping this thread so this jack hole Jiaowhatever guy doesn't get top billing.

GefahrMike253
09-26-2013, 06:51 AM
There are plenty of mines out there that aren't locked up to have to worry about breaking in, don't break anything. Leave no trace, I would rather rope in from a ventilation shaft or another opening.

GefahrMike253

mojaverider4life
10-09-2013, 03:06 PM
been a while since i have checked this , where i go exploring it is just open OHV area , around the Barstow/lucerne valley area , gonna expand and move up into Nevada do check out some Mines hidden in the hills , seen a few pictures of bat doors cut right thew the middle....gets sickening when the best mines are the one that get sealed off

sbruce
11-11-2013, 09:39 PM
Both states are in serious decline. I'd recommend avoiding any trips to both California and Nevada. While there are many beautiful areas and sights to be seen, bad actors abound. IMO both states are good places to avoid.