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    Default Arizona Asbestos Mine..we got our wings!

    We took a ride yesterday up Route 288, known as The Desert to the Tall Pines Scenic Highway. It goes from Route 188 near Roosevelt all the way to a small town called Young. Young was the home of The Pleasant Valley Wars, a bloody family feud between the Grahams and the Tewksburys in the late 1800s, but I digress, that's a whole other topic.
    I'm trying to find information about a once thriving large asbestos mine located off Route 288, between Asbestos Point and Zimmerman Point in the Sierra Anchas. We've driven up the road which used to be the main road to the mine, but it's closed to vehicle through traffic and has become a hiking trail since it's located in a designated wilderness area. The back road we've heard it still accessible by Jeep, but it'll take summoning up some courage to try it, it's a very steep, very high "edgy" climb. We're trying to find out before we make the climb, if it's worth the trip. We've heard that there are a lot of buildings left standing and looking through binoculars, we think we can make out what appears to be some structures.
    I can't seem to find out the name of the mine through regular searching. The locals call it Angel Wings, because the white sludge dumped over the side of the mountain looks like a large set of angel's wings, a landmark that can be seen from miles away.
    Does anyone have any information or can you suggest a resource? AZ Dept of Mines and Minerals needs more information from me before they can look it up because evidently there are several asbestos claims in that same area. I told them I'm looking for "the BIG one," they laughed and said they need more to go on.

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    Well, I guess I can post a reply to myself. AZ Dept of Mines and Minerals was able to figure out after a bit of badgering from me, that the mine I'm looking for is actually a series of claims called Zimmerman Asbestos Points, Asbestos Peak Property Claim and The American Ore claim. AZDMM wasn't able to tell me if there is any access to the site, I suspect since it's an asbestos site, access might be restricted. I'll check further with the local rangers. We stopped by the ranger station today but it seems anyone who would know is out on fire patrol until next week.
    If anyone's ever heard of these Asbestos mines,or has any information, please post.
    Thanks!


    Footnote:
    I found this tidbit interesting. The areas near the asbestos mines in the Sierra Anchas also used to be heavily mined for uranium. We were told that the areas around Workman Creek and McFadden Peak are regularly monitored for radioactivity and that camping is these areas is restricted depending on the Geiger Counter readings. Glow in the dark campers?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraA View Post
    We were told that the areas around Workman Creek and McFadden Peak are regularly monitored for radioactivity and that camping is these areas is restricted depending on the Geiger Counter readings. Glow in the dark campers?!
    Saves on using lanterns.


    And you know when you start posting to yourself, we have to take you out back and shoot you right? They say that's the first sign of mad cow disease. Or was it hoof and mouth? I forget, but we have to be safe you know

    I have USGS maps of A-ree-zon-i-a, I 'll look around and see if I can find anything usefull. What county and closest town would these places be by for reference? You can PM me if you want to keep them secretive, but I refuse to learn anymore secret handshakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryB View Post
    Saves on using lanterns.


    And you know when you start posting to yourself, we have to take you out back and shoot you right? They say that's the first sign of mad cow disease. Or was it hoof and mouth? I forget, but we have to be safe you know

    I have USGS maps of A-ree-zon-i-a, I 'll look around and see if I can find anything usefull. What county and closest town would these places be by for reference? You can PM me if you want to keep them secretive, but I refuse to learn anymore secret handshakes.
    In my case, it's probably foot in mouth disease (I've been known to insert foot mouth and chomp vigorously)
    There's nothing secretive about the area, it probably glows in the dark at night. The areas in question are located off Rt 288, 25ish miles from Roosevelt, on the road to Young. Gila County. On maps that I've got, it shows it all in the vicinity of the Sierra Ancha Experimental Forest. No clue as to what the "experiment" is...glowing campers? 20 ft Jack Rabbits?

    (the secret handshake involves standing on one foot with two thumbs up and a neener neener)

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    Okay, I found Asbestos Point and Zimmerman Point. The road you said that you went up that is closed for hiking, was that from the front side facing North East, going up what is called Walnut Creek? Coming from SR288? Or was it FS 189 heading to Coon Creek Butte?

    If so, then I found the back road you mentioned, listed as FS 489. It seems to follow what is called Pocket Creek up in between the 2 points. Using Topo 3D, I can kind of make out the canyon that the "Angel Wings" lie in.

    Am I close

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    Here's the "Angel Wings" seen from space, not much good for seeing buildings though.



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    If you flip between the topo and aerial view, you can slightly make out the road to it. Doesn't look too bad, but I might have a higher pucker factor than you


    If you want, I can get coordinates (GPS) or try to give you a rough estimate for mileage by using my software, let me know.
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    I tried every aerial program I know of (Nasa, Google, Globe, etc) and they won't zoom closer than the Terraserver image (probably because they all use the same images), so I can't help with building pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryB View Post
    Okay, I found Asbestos Point and Zimmerman Point. The road you said that you went up that is closed for hiking, was that from the front side facing North East, going up what is called Walnut Creek? Coming from SR288? Or was it FS 189 heading to Coon Creek Butte?

    If so, then I found the back road you mentioned, listed as FS 489. It seems to follow what is called Pocket Creek up in between the 2 points. Using Topo 3D, I can kind of make out the canyon that the "Angel Wings" lie in.

    Am I close
    You're right on the money! The road heading up before "Angel Wings" from 288 is the one closed for motorized vehicles, hikers are permitted. The second one is the one that should get us there, I believe that's the one heads between the two points. (489?) If you look closely at the satellite image of Angel Wings, above and a bit to the right of the wing on the right, you can barely make out what we believe are a group of several buildings on the road that runs above Angel Wings. That's also the area we saw with binoculars that looked like buildings.**
    That'll be a future goal...the pucker factor up that way, I'd rate as a 10 (10 being the grip the seat and sweat with eyes closed while muttering, "I don't wanna die, I don't wanna die") and then there's the trip back down. Why is it these places are in the remotest locations imaginable?
    Thanks so much Gary, you've given us something to go on, now we know what to expect!

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    **Turns out they aren't buildings, only sunlight shining off asbestos veins.
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