Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
I'll take the environmentalists over the illegals and land developers myself. At least there will be something left when all is said and done.

What kills me about this is how it's made to be a Republican/Democratic issue or conservative/liberal issue. If you look at Obama's and McCain's stand, they're both identical to Bush's. It's going to be four more years of the same insanity no matter who wins. Some one is going to have to come up with a lot of clever graphs and charts to make me understand how McCain's identical stance on Border Security and immigration is different from Obama's identical stance of Bush's. Kind of like NAFTA: McCain likes it and won't change a thing and Obama doesn't like it, but won't change a thing. These are choices that divides people? Sounds like its business versus the American people to me.

Believe me Gary, it's tempting, very tempting somedays. A lot of us are telling ourselves down here that we are not at war yet.

Yep, I agree on every point!