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    Default Barrio Libre Tucson History

    Barrio Libre, not Barrio Libertad. Also a link to the whole article.

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    Perhaps the most unusual of Tucson's historic landmarks is the Mexican religious shrine known as "El Tiradito" (The Outcast), which is dedicated not to a saint, but to a sinner who died violently and dishonorably. This "Wishing Shrine," manifesting the complete antithesis of San Augustin Church, or any other religious edifice, for that matter, has, for over three-quarters of a century been revered by Mexicans, Indians and Anglo-Americans. They believed, and still do, that their wishes would come true if their candles burned through the night. In 1928, the Shrine was moved from its original location on the southwest corner of Meyer and Simpson (the inner Barrio) to its present location on the west side of the 300 block of South Main Street (the edge of the Barrio). It has been stated that the mystic power of the Shrine did not suffer in the short move, yet our interviews suggest that the Shrine does not have the importance it formerly had. While it may not be a vital part of the Barrio residents' daily lives today, it still maintains its position as a major element in their culture and ethnic identity. The magnitude of its importance to the individual has not changed, only the number of people who regularly patronize it. In November, 1971, El Tiradito was entered on the National Register of Historic Places.
    Finally, one point must remain clear. The Barrio today does not contain a multitude of individually significant places of major historical importance. Its importance is in the collective whole or spirit that the Barrio expresses in its demonatration of the traditional elements and modes of Mexican-American life.

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    Thanks! I bookmarked the article. Who would have thought that Pete Kitchen would be living in a small house on South Main Street after the life that he led?
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    Joel, I would never laugh at that tough looking bunch of lawmen. They would fit right in with the people they were protecting, or arresting, depending on the situation. They looked different than the cops back East, because it was a completely different society they were part of.

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    Speaking of Dillinger, here's the home on 2nd St. where he was captured in 1934. It is now a B&B known as The Dillinger House.

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    They made a B & B out of it? The last time that I went in there, it was full of drunken college kids! I think Dillinger would have drifted to the keg rather than the brie.
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    I'll bet many people pass by there every day and don't realize that this is the house...

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    They made a B & B out of it? The last time that I went in there, it was full of drunken college kids! I think Dillinger would have drifted to the keg rather than the brie.
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    Getting back to the subjects on this thread...

    According to what I read Elizabeth Short aka The Black Dahlia came to Tucson with another woman and a man to do some modeling photo shoots and they stayed at the Catalina Hotel on Broadway right by the over pass. This from the book Severed by John Gilmore who also wrote a book about Charles Schmidt who murdered two teenage girls back in the 60's in Tucson. This is probably the city's most famous murder case.
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