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    Hello,

    Is anyone familiar with this place?
    I was looking at a map of Falls City Oregon and noticed Socialist Valley Rd. I was unable to find much on the web (even on Oregon state archives) except a mention that Socialist Valley once was a community-inhabited by Socialists!

    There isn't much evidence of lingering socialist leanings in the area. Falls City and Valsetz were both logging towns and never seemed like havens for leftist thought.

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    Actually, you just maybe shocked to the one time extent of "leftist" thought. The I.W.W. was very popular in the West about 1910-1919.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    Actually, you just maybe shocked to the one time extent of "leftist" thought. The I.W.W. was very popular in the West about 1910-1919.
    As opposed to now????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidw View Post
    As opposed to now????

    Well, don't tell the GOP types this, but I think the I.W.W. has been dead for decades. Let them keep thinking there's something going on!
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    LOL - The IWW has been gone for a long time, but the ideals and concepts of that movement are alive and active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave A View Post
    LOL - The IWW has been gone for a long time, but the ideals and concepts of that movement are alive and active.
    That's what I mean. However, let's not hijack this thread further, please.
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    OK Joel, David...There's lot a places for political banter, even argument. This ain't one, as you both know. Does anyone have any info about this area that would be appropriate to this site? I expect there are many Ghosttowns in the great U.S. whose history would provoke various kinds of debate. Here in Oklahoma, many of our GTs are Black, Indian, German, Italian, Scottish, Czech, and many, many have some serious KKK history. Oh, and North/South stuff. Anyway, THAT IS ALL. OJ

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    Default The Bisbee deportation, 1917

    The iww is not quite dead, although membership is down from a high in the early 20's to about 2,000 today. Started in 1905 by socialist, communist & anarchist radical militants it's stated goal was the violent destruction of the "employer class".

    Joel's right about it's existance in the west, especially in the mining districts. An iww plot was uncovered in Bisbee, AZ in 1917 to stop the mining operation at the states richest mine & disrupt the flow of necessary raw materials for the war effort. They planned to dynamite mining equipment & were arming to attack managers in their homes & offices.

    Harry Wheeler had been the last Captian of the Arizona Rangers & was now sheriff of Cochise county. He had been a miner in Bisbee himself & had great respect for the honest men in that line of work, but he didn't like the red menace & saw his duty. He mass deputised 1,200 men & organized a round up of "wobblies" to be deported by rail to Columbus, NM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old judge View Post
    OK Joel, David...There's lot a places for political banter, even argument. This ain't one, as you both know. Does anyone have any info about this area that would be appropriate to this site? I expect there are many Ghosttowns in the great U.S. whose history would provoke various kinds of debate. Here in Oklahoma, many of our GTs are Black, Indian, German, Italian, Scottish, Czech, and many, many have some serious KKK history. Oh, and North/South stuff. Anyway, THAT IS ALL. OJ
    And that is why I asked that we not hijack the thread.
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    I have seen this road on the map and wondered about it myself. (I was researching Black Rock at the time, which is a timber-ghost town nearby.)

    Your best bet is to grab a copy of Oregon Geographic Names. That book will have info on it if nothing else will.

    I thought perhaps that the valley was named for Am Olam, the "Eternal People" who were Jewish immigrants fleeing pogroms in Russia. But they settled down in Douglas County in a ghost town called "New Odessa."

    I was close, but no cigar!

    You might also try contacting Jim Kopp, because he just wrote a book about utopian communities of Oregon.
    I think he would know, as he wrote this article below.

    http://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/entry/view/am_olam/

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