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    I'm going to be bad. Vulture, where did you get those photographs? I've seen Bykrit's book and sources. Amazing photos that I've never seen! This is what I love about history, when it comes alive. And sincere apologies to all G.O.P types. If you note the years, this occurred when Wilson was in the White House and Palmer in the AG's Office. All true Democrats in office (1912-1920 it maybe be found in your books). Wilson refused to do a single thing to allow even one of the miners to return to Bisbee. Some stayed in the box cars for years, bust most slowly drifted away. No trials, no convictions. Way hysteria, Union busting, an Imperial Conspiracy from the Kaiser? No one is sure even today. The I.W.W. allied itself with Lenin and the Revolution in the post WWI years. Anti-American? Quite possibly and most certainly.
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    The photo's are from "Captain Harry Wheeler Arizona Lawman" by Bill O'Neal.

    By the way, Harry Wheeler was a Democrat.
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    I believe that you're right about Wheeler. Am trying to remember if it was Gov. Hunt or Gov. Campbell that disbanded the Rangers.

    Such strange days so long ago. If I recall, didn't Big Bill Hayworth (sp?) of the IWW flee to the USSR with union funds?
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    The legislature passed the bill abolishing the Arizona rangers & it was veto'd by then Gov Kibbey. Sent back to the council they had the votes to overturn the veto ending the rangers.

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    "...he didn't like the red menace & saw his duty. He mass deputised 1,200 men & organized a round up of "wobblies" to be deported by rail to Columbus, NM." -Vulture

    My hat is off to you, there are few I have met that have any idea of why the deportation occurred. I have not studied it much, but a couple local historians have pretty much echoed your version.

    200 (or so) of the men that held the guns on the strikers were arrested for kidnapping. Only one went to trial- in Douglas. The court was held in a movie theater. The accused was exonerated. The charges were dropped against the rest and the $2,000 bonds for each was returned to those that paid it. My grandfather, a Mining Engineer from Iowa arrived in Bisbee a few years before the strike. He was one of the deputized that was arrested. I do not think there was any military involvement during the episode.

    There are stories that dynamite was placed in the mine shafts beneath Bisbee. Wheeler found out and that is why he was eager to deputize the men and force out the strikers. I have no idea if there is any substance to the story.

    When I look at those old photographs, I wonder if my grandfather is somewhere in them.
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