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    I don't know if I've ever posted here before, though I've been a member for a long time. Don't know if this is the right spot to put this, but I'm on a quest to find Tirzo de la Toba, the forgotten last general of Magon's Liberal Army of Baja California/Mexican Revolution era, 1912 through 1915. During this period Toba's forces spent as much time on American soil as they did in Mexico, in the Jacumba, In-Ko-Pah and Myer Valley area, some of the roughest terrain you're likely to run into in the desert. There's also one report that puts them as far west and north as El Cajon, a suburb of San Diego, a farming community in this time period, but I've got to corroborate that some more.

    We did a hike out to Smugglers Cave, Elliott Mine and Moon Valley a while back, http://www.in-the-desert.com/smugglerscave.html and in the course of trying to find out more about the cave, I came across the one and only Desert Magazine article on it, January, 1940, page 38: http://www.dezertmagazine.com/mine/1940DM01/index/html In the article, author Sam Bryan mentions a border bandit named Tirso de la Toba.

    A lot of what is written about Smuggler's Cave, even at sites like the BLM, are not supported by historical sources, so I went and tried to find out more about this bandit. Thing is, I couldn't. There were no articles, no books, no mention of the guy anywhere. I ended up doing a major, dare I admit, obsessive search for who and what Turso, Terso Tirso, Tirzo de la Toba was. And I wrote it up: http://www.authorsden.com/visit/view...?AuthorID=3199

    I haven't finished my research, and this is a rough draft. Although most of the data I give in the article is corroborated, I'm open to any doubts anyone might have about it. If anyone should know anyone that might have relatives, ancestors or knowledge of Tirzo de la Toba, Ambrosio Ruiz, Juan Rios of El Cajon, all around 1912, or any information about Smugglers Cave, even if its no more than legend, I'd greatly appreciate it.


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    smugglers cave sounds fun!
    any chances of finding a fortune there.
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    I don't know if I've ever posted here before, though I've been a member for a long time. Don't know if this is the right spot to put this, but I'm on a quest to find Tirzo de la Toba, the forgotten last general of Magon's Liberal Army of Baja California/Mexican Revolution era, 1912 through 1915. During this period Toba's forces spent as much time on American soil as they did in Mexico, in the Jacumba, In-Ko-Pah and Myer Valley area, some of the roughest terrain you're likely to run into in the desert. There's also one report that puts them as far west and north as El Cajon, a suburb of San Diego, a farming community in this time period, but I've got to corroborate that some more.

    We did a hike out to Smugglers Cave, Elliott Mine and Moon Valley a while back, http://www.in-the-desert.com/smugglerscave.html and in the course of trying to find out more about the cave, I came across the one and only Desert Magazine article on it, January, 1940, page 38: http://www.dezertmagazine.com/mine/1940DM01/index/html In the article, author Sam Bryan mentions a border bandit named Tirso de la Toba.

    A lot of what is written about Smuggler's Cave, even at sites like the BLM, are not supported by historical sources, so I went and tried to find out more about this bandit. Thing is, I couldn't. There were no articles, no books, no mention of the guy anywhere. I ended up doing a major, dare I admit, obsessive search for who and what Turso, Terso Tirso, Tirzo de la Toba was. And I wrote it up: http://www.authorsden.com/visit/view...?AuthorID=3199

    I haven't finished my research, and this is a rough draft. Although most of the data I give in the article is corroborated, I'm open to any doubts anyone might have about it. If anyone should know anyone that might have relatives, ancestors or knowledge of Tirzo de la Toba, Ambrosio Ruiz, Juan Rios of El Cajon, all around 1912, or any information about Smugglers Cave, even if its no more than legend, I'd greatly appreciate it.


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    First point of research: Library of Congress. Chronicling America, search state by state or all states. Search for "de la Toba"

    On the page I have selected, look for an article called "Rebels move" and read about the outlaw/ renegade and all around scoundrel Sr de la Toba

    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1
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