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    Default Re: Never considered a tourist mine?

    Originally posted by bad bob


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    : : : As far as I know, (which is very little), there are 2 kinds of abandoned mines. Ones that have been made into small tourist attractions, with lights, and maybe a guide, similar to cave attractions. I believe the other type is what you are referring to. The kind that has been boarded up, with skull & crossbones warnings. I give the "cajones" level an 8, out of 10, for these. That leaves 2 for the thrill-seekers, and loonie- tunies, (oh and the dumb kids that don't know no better). [gram intent'l]

    : : : bb.



    : : BB - I always figured that there were two kinds of abandoned mines, neither of which weren't without hazards. I never considered the tourist thing a mine anymore There are the kind without adequate ventilation where carbon dioxide builds up near the ground and some fool (Like the VC teacher) stirs up when entering and gets far enough from the exit that they die. The other kind have ventilation, I know cause some 40 years ago (Stupid kid cutting school) I went investigating one by feeling my way along the wall. Used be able to find dynamite in the back of such mines and boy what a stupid kid could do with dynamite (Specially the kind that sweat - he he boom). I was stopped in my feeling along the wall by the distinctive rattle of one of Ripley nemesis. Stupid kid that I was, I retreated, made a torch out of some oily rags and a stick and went back in to mess with that snake. He was safe, between me and him was this "5 and half second" vertical shaft across the complete "floor". It's a wonder I survived my youth. Ventilation has to come from somewhere? Stay out and stay alive is a very good motto. Talk to someone who has had to go down the 5 second holes to recover some fools remains and you'll know more about old mines than you care too.



    : Already gotcha covered on the dumb kid portion, but what would you now consider the tourist mine?

    : There was one in Placerville, CA called the Bed Bug Mine, and was a tourist attraction. Was there about 1992, don't know if it's still open. So I imagine there are several tourist mines like that one, only in various sizes.

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    : Mine




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    Default Re: Thanks Steve

    Originally posted by bad bob


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    : : Bad bob: a couple of years ago there was a verified case of a school teacher and a family friend that both died in a mine in Virginia City, and they were not too far inside -- it was at Thanksgiving time and the teacher had two kids. There is a lot of bad air in most VC mines and one full lung full of carbon dioxide can put the lights out with death soon to follow and that is what happened to them. BTW can you guess what the school teacher taught? ...one of his subjects at the local VC jr high was mine safety. -- rgds,steve

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    : : kind that has been boarded up, with skull & crossbones warnings. I give the "cajones" level an 8, out of 10, for these. That leaves 2 for the thrill-seekers, and loonie- tunies, (oh and the dumb kids that don't know no better). [gram intent'l]

    : : : bb.



    : VC is ONE of my personal favs, but have not taken any of the old mine tours yet. I do appreciate the tip however. I'm sure, MUCH to the chagrin of some (or all) of the flamethrowers of some weeks ago. You probably should have posted anonymously, because I had the sense that some of them were headhunters. Too late now though, you're officially a member of the "Addams Family".

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    Default Re: Thanks Steve

    Originally posted by Pat and Mark


    : It's the Gold Bug Mine in Placerville, not the Bed Bug.




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    Default Re: Thanks Gold Bed!

    Originally posted by bad bob


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    : : It's the Gold Bug Mine in Placerville, not the Bed Bug.



    : Hiccup..I... didn't say Bed.. Bug, I said Placer Bug.. Mineville in.. Road Bed...er, Bugville.... Minefield in....Villa Ruidoso... I mean...phweew..

    : is it hot in here...mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!




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    Default Re: Yeah But :)

    Originally posted by Yet Another Bob


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    : : Already gotcha covered on the dumb kid portion, but what would you now consider the tourist mine?

    : : There was one in Placerville, CA called the Bed Bug Mine, and was a tourist attraction. Was there about 1992, don't know if it's still open. So I imagine there are several tourist mines like that one, only in various sizes.

    : : bb.

    : : Mine



    : Your right, its obviously a safe mine, sorta like your inclusion of "Walt Knox" type ghost towns. They are what they are, I just pay them "no never mind". The city of Tonopah and Shawn Hall are doing much the same thing at the Mining Park. Once they get out the pest control, whitewash and meet the ADAAG (Americans with Disabilities Act Accessibility Guidelines, they kind lose the adventure appeal




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    Default Re: Anyone Ever Go Into Abandoned Mines?

    Originally posted by Tom


    : : There is an earlier thread that asks about stealing from Ghost towns and mines. Does any one go into abandoned mines? I have found several, but never went past the portal because I figured there was nothing in there to see/recover worth my life. You can look in the mine dump to find all the rock specimens from deep underground that you'd everwant. Anyone have the cajones to actually explore an abandoned mine?



    : I've gone into some, but not very far. I went into the Powers Mine in the Gauliro Mtns in Arizona with a friend 10 years ago and into one in the Santa Rita Mtns. Not much worth risking your safety for.




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    Default Re: Thanks Gold Bed!

    Originally posted by Steve Bruce


    : Hmmmm... I like the Bed Bug mine -- sounds like a good name to incorporate on! steve

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    : : : It's the Gold Bug Mine in Placerville, not the Bed Bug.



    : : Hiccup..I... didn't say Bed.. Bug, I said Placer Bug.. Mineville in.. Road Bed...er, Bugville.... Minefield in....Villa Ruidoso... I mean...phweew..

    : : is it hot in here...mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!




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    Default Re: Anyone Ever Go Into Abandoned Mines?

    Originally posted by roger waldon


    : USE CAUTION!With dry rot in the timbers some of the timbers barely hold up their own weight.Also consider ground movement (earth quakes )I've gone into a few in the inyo area they are like time capsules lots of minning stuff that they didn't want to carry to the surface again be careful rw




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    Default Re: Yep, but with extreem caution

    Originally posted by Cat Ripley


    : Well, I dont always take extra batteries with me but I always have at least two flashlights if not more. If I know the mine is a big one I'll pack extra batteries as well. And then I have a 2 million candle power spot light that lights up a mine as if its daylight! Course it only lasts a full 20 minutes or so, so I save it for the verticle adits and other spots you need extra strong lighting to check out.





    : : : Well, I have to admit that mine exploring is a hobby of mine. There is something that thrills the **** out of me going into them, sometimes for hours, and exploring them. I dont need to "find" anything for it to be fun, its more the adventure of the whats around the next bend. However, after doing it long enough I've learned which mines to explore, which not to and I realize that I truly am taking a chance by entering them in the first place! I've been doing this since I was a little tyke of about 4 or 5 and like BB its amazing I made it through childhood. In these mines I've found bottles, dynomite, blasting caps, old mining equipment, old mining clothing and other assorted "artifacts".

    : : : A couple of things to remember IF you do go into mines: NEVER GO ALONE, dont take chances crossing old timbers over adits, tell someone where you went ahead of time, dont kick or push on the timbers, dont bang on the walls, dont go in unless you feel a strong breeze within the mine and know there is good ventalation, and if you smell rotten timbers then get the **** out.

    : : : Even observing these precautions dosnt insure that something wont happen, I'm still taking a chance every single time I step into a mine.



    : : : Thanks for the insight. Do you take a flashlight with lots of extra batteries, or do you have better eqpt, such as the miner's helmet-mounted lamps?




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    Default Underground travel

    Originally posted by Cactusman


    : Speaking from over 3 decades of spelunking, I can tell you with all honesty that you have quite a few precautions to take. I'm sure Cat will concur that you need to start your safety practices before you ever leave home!



    : 1.Plan your trip before you go with any research you can do. Find out anything you can about known hazards. These are things like known hostile wildlife, known hostile humans, known vertical shafts, known previous accidents, and so on...



    : 2.Find at least two partners! There are a few reasons for this. First, SAFETY. If anyone gets hurt,there will be a way someone can get outside to call for help or go get help without leaving your injured partner alone. If you are alone and injured in a mine shaft, your done... game over. There is always the more pleasent reason for partners. You have someone there to share the moment. It can be a great time for good friends to go spelunking in both mines and natural caverns. Last but not least, if you have partners, you don't have to be the one to carry all the equipment!



    : 2.Select your equipment with your trip in mind. No matter what kind of mine or cave you plan to visit, at the very least, wear a bump cap. You can get one at a hardware store cheap. You would be suprised at how much one of those things can protect you from what would seem to be a minor hazard ( If you'll pardon the pun ). You mentioned light. Cat had a good point. Don't rely on one light source. carry at least two flashlights and a couple changes of batteries. I can't tell you how many flashlights I've broken half a mile under ground!



    : 3. Let someone know where you are going! If you and your partners get stuck in a mine behind a wall of rock and timber, it could be considered helpful if someone knew where you went so they can check on you after a set amount of time. This is one of many things that could keep you breathing!



    : 4. There are plenty of other things to think about. Food, Water, First aid kit, the list goes on but need not be overly extensive. If you have never done this kind of thing, contact a local cavers club to get an experienced spelunker as a guide. They are almost always happy to find a new outing to go on and can help you pick the time, place, equipment and plan for your outing.



    : I don't mean to take all the fun out of this type of outing. I would just rather see pictures posted in this site of your bright smilin' face on your trip rather than in an obituary.



    : Have a great time!



    : Cactusman




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