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    Default metal detecting some of the calif. ghost towns.

    Originally posted by Tom Rice

    : I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INFORMATION ON METAL DETECTING SOME OF THE CALIF. GHOST TOWNS. THE DO'S AND DONT'S AND WHERE WOULD BE A DECENT PLACE TO GO FOR A LONG WEEK END IN PATICULAR IN THE DESERT AREAS. CAN ANYBODY OUT THERE GIVE ME SOME ADVISE?


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    Default Re: metal detecting some of the calif. ghost towns.

    Originally posted by Kathy

    : : I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INFORMATION ON METAL DETECTING SOME OF THE CALIF. GHOST TOWNS. THE DO'S AND DONT'S AND WHERE WOULD BE A DECENT PLACE TO GO FOR A LONG WEEK END IN PATICULAR IN THE DESERT AREAS. CAN ANYBODY OUT THERE GIVE ME SOME ADVISE?

    : Tom- my advice is PLEASE DO NOT take anything from
    : any ghosttown. Leave it be.......There are laws
    : governing such actions.


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    Default Re: metal detecting some of the calif. ghost towns.

    Originally posted by Tom McCurnin

    : : I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INFORMATION ON METAL DETECTING SOME OF THE CALIF. GHOST TOWNS. THE DO'S AND DONT'S AND WHERE WOULD BE A DECENT PLACE TO GO FOR A LONG WEEK END IN PATICULAR IN THE DESERT AREAS. CAN ANYBODY OUT THERE GIVE ME SOME ADVISE?

    : My advice is the same as Kathy's. This really is an act of vandalism and as Kathy mentions, there are laws against this so if you are serious about doing this, at least check out the laws first.


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    Default Re: metal detecting some of the calif. ghost towns.

    Originally posted by Todd

    : : I'M LOOKING FOR SOME INFORMATION ON METAL DETECTING SOME OF THE CALIF. GHOST TOWNS. THE DO'S AND DONT'S AND WHERE WOULD BE A DECENT PLACE TO GO FOR A LONG WEEK END IN PATICULAR IN THE DESERT AREAS. CAN ANYBODY OUT THERE GIVE ME SOME ADVISE?

    : Tom, you can only legally metal detect on private property and only if you have the express permission of the land owners. You can get jail time and huge fines if you are caught metal detecting on any government land ie state, BLM, National Forest or whatever. Unfortunately, metal detecting is no longer an accepted thing.


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    Vandalism:to destroy or damage property maliciously.

    Please to compare metal detecting in a ghost town to vandalism is absurd at best. It is an inoffensive hobby where we look for things ,most often coins lost, dropped and forgotten, already buried and out of sight. So really you wouldn't know it if they were there or not! Most of us who enjoy this hobby are ethical leaving a site better than when we found it. If you are worried about vandals then I suggest we never speak of ghost towns and their locations again. Because surely by volume of numbers we will direct some one to a ghost town and they will deface or malign the ghost town in ignorance or intentionally. Incidentally it is wrong to be dogmatic and say it is illegal to metal detect on public land ie. BLM, National Forests etc. when in some cases it is but in the far majority it is NOT.

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    Thumbs up california ghost towns

    you are better off looking in the rocky mountain states for towns;
    the laws are harsh in california. Most people who enjoy their freedoms consder california a commist state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody
    you are better off looking in the rocky mountain states for towns;
    the laws are harsh in california. Most people who enjoy their freedoms consder california a commist state
    Agreed, California is a socialist state with mass regulation. Walk off a trail and you will probably be commiting a crime.

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    Default Interesting Thread

    I am sort of surprised by the emotion I find in this thread. As a Ghost towner and a frequent user of metal detectors I think the two hobbies actually complement each other. I respect the Ghost towns, I don't destroy them, and I ask permission. I don't take artifacts which are different from the items a detectorist can legally take from the ground. Things like minerals (read Gold Nuggets) and coins depending on the site.
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    Default Metal Detecting is legal on public property

    I submit for your cosideration that the litmus for use of a metal detector first depends on 1) The private/public property issue; 2) Intent; and 3) Equipment used.

    You have to look for it, but most Forest Service (USDept of Agriculture) Superintendents will have language similar to the below somewhere in their office or on their website:

    The language below was taken from the Prescott FS site a while back. I preserved some of their spelling errors:

    "The allowable use of metal detectors on National Forest system lands takes a number of different forms. Detectors are used in searching for:
    1)treasure trove,
    2)locating historical and prehistorical artifacts and features,
    3)prospecting for minerals, and
    4)searching for recent coins and lost metal objects.
    Of these four types of uses for metal detectors, the first three are covered by existing regulations that require special authorization, i.e. special use permits, notice of intent, or operating plan.
    The search for treasure trove, which is defined as money, unmounted gems, or precious metals in the form of coin, plate, or bullion that has been deliberately hidden with the intention of recovering it later, is an activity which is regulated by the Forest Service. Searching for treasure trove has the potential of causing considerable disturbance and damage to resources and thus requires a Special Use Permit from the Forest Service. Methods utilized in searching for treasure trove must be specified in the permits issued. Permits may not be granted in each and every case, but applications will be reviewed with attention being paid to the justification given and guarantees for the restoration of any damage that might occur to other resources. The use of metal detectors in searching for treasure trove is permissible when under this type of permit, but must be kept within the conditions of the permit.
    The use of a metal detector to locate objects of historic or archaeological value is permissible subject to the provisions of the Antiquities Act of 1906, the Archaeological Resources Preservation Act 1979, and the Secretary of Agriculture's regulations. Such use requires a Special Use Permit covering the exploration, excavation. appropriation, or removal of historic and archaeological materials and information. Such permits are available for legitimate historical and prehistorical research activities by qualified individuals. Unauthorized use of metal detectors in the search for and collection of historic and archaeological artifacts is a violation of existing regulations and statutes.
    The use of a metal detector to locate mineral deposits such as gold, and silver on National Forest System lands is considered prospecting and is subject to the provisions of the General Mining Law of 1872.
    Searching for coins of recent vintage (less than 50 years) and small objects having no historical value, as a recreational pursuit, using a hand-held metal detector, does not currently require a Special Use Permit as long as the use of the equipment is confined to areas which do no posses historic or prehistoric resources"

    On the BLM, your rights are even more preserved. Should you have a loop on the detector designed for gold, your unimpaired rights are further enhanced under the Mining Act of 1872.

    Prospecting with a metal detector is an unalienable rights secured by consent of the governed.

    Please see the following for more information:

    Mining Act of 1872; The Forest Land Policy Management Act; 36 Code of Federal Regulations; 43 Code of Federal Regulations.

    That said, ghost town are everyone's heritage - leave it for the next wandering soul...

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    In that Case go first applying for permission.
    But if you know any oh US history may you agree with me that you could search at any place in USA or Canada and may find you'd never expected.
    In ghost towns search that many that you must be very Lucky to find some

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